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	<title>Comments on: Bridging the digital divide: Edwards gets it</title>
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	<description>Think.  It ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/06/17/bridging-the-digital-divide-edwards-gets-it/comment-page-1/#comment-3141</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin, I&#039;m tired of living with spam and having to spend $30 per year to Spamcop to filter it for me.  But it&#039;s not whether you and I can handle it, but rather the money we&#039;re all paying indirectly because of the costs of spam.

Maybe this would be a better topic to address on its own, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, I&#8217;m tired of living with spam and having to spend $30 per year to Spamcop to filter it for me.  But it&#8217;s not whether you and I can handle it, but rather the money we&#8217;re all paying indirectly because of the costs of spam.</p>
<p>Maybe this would be a better topic to address on its own, though.</p>
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		<title>By: whythawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>whythawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The South African government certainly doesn&#039;t get it.  Our state monopoly ensures that we have the worst and slowest and least effective broadband of any emerging economy.  Less than 1% has access and it&#039;s flipping expensive.  Perhaps you can send Edwards here?

I have capped internet access (i.e. if I use too much I get cut off) and it costs around US$ 0.50 per meg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The South African government certainly doesn&#8217;t get it.  Our state monopoly ensures that we have the worst and slowest and least effective broadband of any emerging economy.  Less than 1% has access and it&#8217;s flipping expensive.  Perhaps you can send Edwards here?</p>
<p>I have capped internet access (i.e. if I use too much I get cut off) and it costs around US$ 0.50 per meg.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

Actually, there&#039;s a service called Goodmail that prioritizes subscriber e-mail and allows it to bypass spam filters for a small fee. A number of consumer groups and grassroots organizations opposed AOL and Yahoo adopting it for precisely the reason you cited--the high costs would drive small businesses to extinction.

I&#039;m willing to live with spam, honestly. I delete it every time it shows up in my inbox and regularly teach people how to avoid phishing and pharming e-mails. The best defense is education and vigilance, but your mileage may vary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Actually, there&#8217;s a service called Goodmail that prioritizes subscriber e-mail and allows it to bypass spam filters for a small fee. A number of consumer groups and grassroots organizations opposed AOL and Yahoo adopting it for precisely the reason you cited&#8211;the high costs would drive small businesses to extinction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to live with spam, honestly. I delete it every time it shows up in my inbox and regularly teach people how to avoid phishing and pharming e-mails. The best defense is education and vigilance, but your mileage may vary.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/06/17/bridging-the-digital-divide-edwards-gets-it/comment-page-1/#comment-3138</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that I struggle with regarding net neutrality is the issue of spam.  The only truly effective way to kill spamming is to remove the economic incentive from the spammers.  Given that spam income relies on cheap access, increasing the cost of access is the only sure-fire way to kill the spam industry.  So how do we increase access costs to spammers but still keep from screwing over all the legitimate businesspeople and consumers?

I&#039;ve been thinking of a per-email charge, with the first N emails free, and then increasing the charge-per-email logarithmically thereafter.  If you&#039;re a legitmate businessperson, you&#039;ll just pass the costs on to your customers.  If you&#039;re a privite individual, we&#039;ll set the free line low enough that it won&#039;t catch most of you, and since the charges go up very slowly at first anyway, you&#039;ll probably be fine.  But if you&#039;re in a very low margin business like spamming, you&#039;ll be driven out of business.  While I think this would work, and while I think it&#039;s fair, does it run afoul of net neutrality?  IMO, not if &lt;em&gt;everyone&lt;/em&gt;, private citizens and businesses, rich and poor, pays the same rate.  But you, or other commentors, might disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that I struggle with regarding net neutrality is the issue of spam.  The only truly effective way to kill spamming is to remove the economic incentive from the spammers.  Given that spam income relies on cheap access, increasing the cost of access is the only sure-fire way to kill the spam industry.  So how do we increase access costs to spammers but still keep from screwing over all the legitimate businesspeople and consumers?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking of a per-email charge, with the first N emails free, and then increasing the charge-per-email logarithmically thereafter.  If you&#8217;re a legitmate businessperson, you&#8217;ll just pass the costs on to your customers.  If you&#8217;re a privite individual, we&#8217;ll set the free line low enough that it won&#8217;t catch most of you, and since the charges go up very slowly at first anyway, you&#8217;ll probably be fine.  But if you&#8217;re in a very low margin business like spamming, you&#8217;ll be driven out of business.  While I think this would work, and while I think it&#8217;s fair, does it run afoul of net neutrality?  IMO, not if <em>everyone</em>, private citizens and businesses, rich and poor, pays the same rate.  But you, or other commentors, might disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: DFL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DFL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 02:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If certain outfits are consuming a disproportionate amount of resources--and profiting from it--shouldn&#039;t they be expected to pay more?

Companies spent billions of dollars running fiber optic cable all over the country.  Having the government step in to compete with them is just plain wrong.  Technology is a declining cost industry.  But the thing is that the costs never decline unless people are willing to first pay the high price.  So if the government competes now and destroys the profitability of an entire industry, will companies be less willing to invest heavily on new technologies in the future for fear of government competition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If certain outfits are consuming a disproportionate amount of resources&#8211;and profiting from it&#8211;shouldn&#8217;t they be expected to pay more?</p>
<p>Companies spent billions of dollars running fiber optic cable all over the country.  Having the government step in to compete with them is just plain wrong.  Technology is a declining cost industry.  But the thing is that the costs never decline unless people are willing to first pay the high price.  So if the government competes now and destroys the profitability of an entire industry, will companies be less willing to invest heavily on new technologies in the future for fear of government competition?</p>
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