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		<title>By: The Weekly Carboholic: Catch-22 for carbon capture and solar thermal &#124; Scholars and Rogues</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-96224</link>
		<dc:creator>The Weekly Carboholic: Catch-22 for carbon capture and solar thermal &#124; Scholars and Rogues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our civilization runs on carbon. If we wish to continue to have a civilization, at least one that resembles the one we have now (and that the developing world aspires to have), we will have to stop running our civilization on carbon. This means that everything that consumes energy in any form today needs to be transitioned from carbon-based energy sources to non-carbon energy. Given that all carbon energy represents solar energy stored over the last few million or billion years, we have to transition toward more raw forms of solar or gravitational energy somehow, and that means no more oil, no more coal, no more natural gas at all. Not a cutback, not a reduction in rate of growth, literally none. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our civilization runs on carbon. If we wish to continue to have a civilization, at least one that resembles the one we have now (and that the developing world aspires to have), we will have to stop running our civilization on carbon. This means that everything that consumes energy in any form today needs to be transitioned from carbon-based energy sources to non-carbon energy. Given that all carbon energy represents solar energy stored over the last few million or billion years, we have to transition toward more raw forms of solar or gravitational energy somehow, and that means no more oil, no more coal, no more natural gas at all. Not a cutback, not a reduction in rate of growth, literally none. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; The Weekly Carboholic</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-61068</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; The Weekly Carboholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Weekly Carboholic Posted on January 30, 2008 by Brian Angliss under ClimaTweet, Weekly Carboholic, economy, energy, environment, foreign policy, global warming, immigration, national security [ Comments: none ]    Generating electricity from ocean currents, waves, and the tides have the opportunity to provide significant amounts of electricity. As I reported several weeks ago, the first significant wave power installation has been given the green light by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission for installation off the Olympic Peninsula. Another type of water-based energy is the tidal barrage. The basic idea is that you find an area where there are very wide swings between high and low tides, put up a dam across a bay or lagoon, and then use the water flow from the tide to fill and empty the bay and use turbines to generate electricity. One scheme uses both the rising and falling tides, driving the turbines both direction while another scheme uses just the falling tide. Last week, the BBC had an update on the Severn tidal barrage. The Severn tidal barrage would be a huge barrage (and likely a road) across the Severn River Estuary and the Bristol Channel, an area that, given its large tides and the support of the Severn River emptying into the Channel, should be able to provide approximately 5% of the United Kingdom&#8217;s electricity. The problem is that the estuary is also a huge bird sanctuary, so the environmental impacts are potentially huge. This is one of the reasons that U.K. Business secretary John Hutton announced that there would be a 2-year long study period of the energy vs. environmental and economic tradeoffs culminating in a period of public comment in 2010. The Severn barrage study is an unfortunately excellent example of the hard choices between environmental protection, economics, and energy that every nation will have to make in the process of decarbonizing the carbon economy. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Weekly Carboholic Posted on January 30, 2008 by Brian Angliss under ClimaTweet, Weekly Carboholic, economy, energy, environment, foreign policy, global warming, immigration, national security [ Comments: none ]    Generating electricity from ocean currents, waves, and the tides have the opportunity to provide significant amounts of electricity. As I reported several weeks ago, the first significant wave power installation has been given the green light by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission for installation off the Olympic Peninsula. Another type of water-based energy is the tidal barrage. The basic idea is that you find an area where there are very wide swings between high and low tides, put up a dam across a bay or lagoon, and then use the water flow from the tide to fill and empty the bay and use turbines to generate electricity. One scheme uses both the rising and falling tides, driving the turbines both direction while another scheme uses just the falling tide. Last week, the BBC had an update on the Severn tidal barrage. The Severn tidal barrage would be a huge barrage (and likely a road) across the Severn River Estuary and the Bristol Channel, an area that, given its large tides and the support of the Severn River emptying into the Channel, should be able to provide approximately 5% of the United Kingdom&#8217;s electricity. The problem is that the estuary is also a huge bird sanctuary, so the environmental impacts are potentially huge. This is one of the reasons that U.K. Business secretary John Hutton announced that there would be a 2-year long study period of the energy vs. environmental and economic tradeoffs culminating in a period of public comment in 2010. The Severn barrage study is an unfortunately excellent example of the hard choices between environmental protection, economics, and energy that every nation will have to make in the process of decarbonizing the carbon economy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Bush&#8217;s global heating proposal - responses and S&#38;R analysis</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-61064</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Bush&#8217;s global heating proposal - responses and S&#38;R analysis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all for using the power of greed to rein in GHGs, but when you realize that we need to decarbonize our entire civilization, the scale of the problem becomes apparent. And only through massive investment of both private and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] all for using the power of greed to rein in GHGs, but when you realize that we need to decarbonize our entire civilization, the scale of the problem becomes apparent. And only through massive investment of both private and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Global Carbon Project says 2007 CO2 emission higher than worst-case IPCC estimate</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-53399</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Global Carbon Project says 2007 CO2 emission higher than worst-case IPCC estimate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] off, this means we nee do start decarbonizing human civilization sooner, decarbonize faster, and decarbonize to an even lower level than the IPCC AR4 target [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] off, this means we nee do start decarbonizing human civilization sooner, decarbonize faster, and decarbonize to an even lower level than the IPCC AR4 target [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; The Weekly Carboholic: Soil key to global heating too</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-37259</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; The Weekly Carboholic: Soil key to global heating too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 03:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How does this relate to global heating? As the planet heats up, droughts and floods are expected to become more common. Both degrade soils, either directly via solar heating or indirectly via wind and water erosion. Agriculture releases nitrogen and carbon compounds into the atmosphere unless done very carefully. Biochar has the potential to both improve soil fertility and sequester carbon in the earth for decades to millenia. And since history has many examples of civilizations that faded as their soils collapsed, keeping our global soil alive and well will be key to keeping our civilization healthy, especially as we decarbonize our carbon-based society. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How does this relate to global heating? As the planet heats up, droughts and floods are expected to become more common. Both degrade soils, either directly via solar heating or indirectly via wind and water erosion. Agriculture releases nitrogen and carbon compounds into the atmosphere unless done very carefully. Biochar has the potential to both improve soil fertility and sequester carbon in the earth for decades to millenia. And since history has many examples of civilizations that faded as their soils collapsed, keeping our global soil alive and well will be key to keeping our civilization healthy, especially as we decarbonize our carbon-based society. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rome on fire - Boomer bands get back together in response&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-11687</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rome on fire - Boomer bands get back together in response&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what we face. Our infrastructure is crumbling. Global heating is perhaps past fixing. We have to free ourselves from fossil fuels and develop our alternative energy sources. We have to do something to reverse the determined march [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what we face. Our infrastructure is crumbling. Global heating is perhaps past fixing. We have to free ourselves from fossil fuels and develop our alternative energy sources. We have to do something to reverse the determined march [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Weekly Carboholic</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-10142</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Weekly Carboholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] shift in energy supplies, &#8220;clean&#8221; coal will be a part of the short-term solution to decarbonizing the carbon economy, so the facts that the DOE has the power to cancel the project entirely and that the companies in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] shift in energy supplies, &#8220;clean&#8221; coal will be a part of the short-term solution to decarbonizing the carbon economy, so the facts that the DOE has the power to cancel the project entirely and that the companies in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Time to stop rearranging the deck chairs on the SS Social Security</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-7808</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Time to stop rearranging the deck chairs on the SS Social Security</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Social Security means that the general funds are no longer available for Medicare, or Medicaid, or decarbonizing our carbon economy. Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul is hardly sound financial advice, and that&#8217;s what Mr. Bell [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Social Security means that the general funds are no longer available for Medicare, or Medicaid, or decarbonizing our carbon economy. Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul is hardly sound financial advice, and that&#8217;s what Mr. Bell [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 29 Sept - Saturday WordPress PoliSci &#171; oldephartteintraining</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>29 Sept - Saturday WordPress PoliSci &#171; oldephartteintraining</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Decarbonizing the Carbon Economy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Earth to Bush: &#8220;Goals aren&#8217;t enough and never will be&#8221; - An introduction to the tactics of smart energy policy &#171; Scholars and Rogues</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Earth to Bush: &#8220;Goals aren&#8217;t enough and never will be&#8221; - An introduction to the tactics of smart energy policy &#171; Scholars and Rogues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For a strategic discussion of energy policy, see Decarbonizing the Carbon Economy. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For a strategic discussion of energy policy, see Decarbonizing the Carbon Economy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s 2030 - do you know where your Arctic ice cap is? &#171; Scholars and Rogues</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s 2030 - do you know where your Arctic ice cap is? &#171; Scholars and Rogues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the different models, indicating that the IPCC sea level rise models are overly conservative) and decarbonizing our carbon economy becomes vitally [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the different models, indicating that the IPCC sea level rise models are overly conservative) and decarbonizing our carbon economy becomes vitally [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t yet, but I will.</description>
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		<title>By: economy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Credit crunch: guide to the perplexed</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>economy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Credit crunch: guide to the perplexed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Until the development of water and wind power, humanity burned carbon-based fuels like wood and coal to power our civilization. These very same fuels are now polluting the air and water with heavy metals, ozone pollution, and acid rain. &#8230; &#8230;more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Until the development of water and wind power, humanity burned carbon-based fuels like wood and coal to power our civilization. These very same fuels are now polluting the air and water with heavy metals, ozone pollution, and acid rain. &#8230; &#8230;more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: asiegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>asiegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article.

With all your suggestions, have you taken a look at Energize America (www.ea2020.org)?</description>
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<p>With all your suggestions, have you taken a look at Energize America (www.ea2020.org)?</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 07:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>San Jose is on the Bay, and it&#039;s probably the most low-lying city in the Bay Area. So the north half of the city, which is the older half, would flood, this is not where the pricier homes are however.

Good article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>San Jose is on the Bay, and it&#8217;s probably the most low-lying city in the Bay Area. So the north half of the city, which is the older half, would flood, this is not where the pricier homes are however.</p>
<p>Good article.</p>
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		<title>By: Oil Dependency &#171; Tales From The Travels</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>Oil Dependency &#171; Tales From The Travels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scholars and Rogues - Decarbonizing the Carbon Economy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/08/07/decarbonizing-the-carbon-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12. JR - Oops, thanks for catching that.  I thought that San Jose was right on the coast.  I&#039;ll correct the post.

13. jon - Nuclear power is the only solution that really makes sense for providing our civilization&#039;s energy needs over the short and medium term, and due to fundamental limits on the availability of uranium fuels, the medium term is only viable if you go to breeder reactors.  Third generation reactors produce far fewer nucleotides than present 2nd generation reactors, meaning that the non-reprocessable wastes are highly radioactive but short-lived.  The best way to handle wastes is still to dig boreholes and lower stainless-steel encased vitrified (turned into glass) waste below the water table several miles down, and this has been the case since the 1980s when it was first produced.  When buried that deep, nothing, not even volcanism, seismic effects, or ice ages will dig it up again.

Wind, solar, tidal, oceanic current, geothermal, and hydropower combined cannot provide for the energy needs of humanity over the short and medium term, even with a massive drive for improved energy efficiency.  This means that nuclear power is required.  Since there&#039;s not enough uranium to run on purely uranium for more than about 30 years at today&#039;s consumption rate (never mind the consumption rate if the world transitions away from coal to nuclear), only by consuming secondary fuels like plutonium will nuclear be viable over the medium term, and plutonium fuels inherently implies breeder reactors.  There simply isn&#039;t any other logical conclusion.

Finally, non-proliferation is busted anyway.  The goal of the international community and the United States shouldn&#039;t be stopping the spread of nuclear power technology, reprocessing technology, or even nuclear weapons, but the careful and safe dissemination of those technologies and draconian, automatic penalties for anyone who propagates those technologies beyond their ability to control them.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daedalnexus.net/index.php/thoughts_blog/comments/revisiting_nuclear_non_proliferation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Revisiting Nuclear Non-Proliferation on my personal blog&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12. JR &#8211; Oops, thanks for catching that.  I thought that San Jose was right on the coast.  I&#8217;ll correct the post.</p>
<p>13. jon &#8211; Nuclear power is the only solution that really makes sense for providing our civilization&#8217;s energy needs over the short and medium term, and due to fundamental limits on the availability of uranium fuels, the medium term is only viable if you go to breeder reactors.  Third generation reactors produce far fewer nucleotides than present 2nd generation reactors, meaning that the non-reprocessable wastes are highly radioactive but short-lived.  The best way to handle wastes is still to dig boreholes and lower stainless-steel encased vitrified (turned into glass) waste below the water table several miles down, and this has been the case since the 1980s when it was first produced.  When buried that deep, nothing, not even volcanism, seismic effects, or ice ages will dig it up again.</p>
<p>Wind, solar, tidal, oceanic current, geothermal, and hydropower combined cannot provide for the energy needs of humanity over the short and medium term, even with a massive drive for improved energy efficiency.  This means that nuclear power is required.  Since there&#8217;s not enough uranium to run on purely uranium for more than about 30 years at today&#8217;s consumption rate (never mind the consumption rate if the world transitions away from coal to nuclear), only by consuming secondary fuels like plutonium will nuclear be viable over the medium term, and plutonium fuels inherently implies breeder reactors.  There simply isn&#8217;t any other logical conclusion.</p>
<p>Finally, non-proliferation is busted anyway.  The goal of the international community and the United States shouldn&#8217;t be stopping the spread of nuclear power technology, reprocessing technology, or even nuclear weapons, but the careful and safe dissemination of those technologies and draconian, automatic penalties for anyone who propagates those technologies beyond their ability to control them.  See <a href="http://www.daedalnexus.net/index.php/thoughts_blog/comments/revisiting_nuclear_non_proliferation/" rel="nofollow">Revisiting Nuclear Non-Proliferation on my personal blog</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All well and good.  Nothing particularly earth shattering or innovative here.

Except for the absolutely insane recommendation to transition to the widespread use of breeder reactors.  That solution is orders of magnitudes more dangerous than the problems of global warming.  Sprinkling large scale factories of plutonium creating reactors around the world will destroy any hope to restrain nuclear proliferation, assisting in the creation of ever more nuclear weapons and nations possessing them.

Breeder reactors have many safety and security problems.  There need to be large scale reprocessing plants to separate nuclear waste and refine it into new fuel rods, adding to the management problem.  Large amounts of extraordinarily radioactive materials will have to be regularly transported by road, rail and water.

There is no long term solution for the safe storage and disposal of nuclear waste.  The half life of plutonium is 100,000 years.  At that point, one half of the plutonium has decayed into other daughter products, many of which are also highly radioactive.  It takes about one million years for plutonium to fully decay into stable, non-radioactive products.  The history of recorded civilization is perhaps 8,000 years old.  The limit for safe containment of nuclear wastes is less than one thousand years.  There is no geologically stable place to bury it for the time needed for decay.  Most storage technologies are only effective for a few hundred years, and we have already had widespread contamination from earlier storage methods that failed.

Time between ice ages is about 10,000 to 100,000 years.  The effects of global warming could be absorbed and corrected by the natural processes of the earth well before the nucleotides have finished their decay.

Radioactive products not only cause cancers and other diseases, but can alter DNA and genetic materials of many species including our own.  Most mutations are not beneficial to the individual or the species.  Nuclear testing and radioactive leaks have already more than doubled the background radiation of the earth.

Please, do not recommend a widespread science experiment be performed on all of creation, with no way to predict the full outcomes, and no way contain or reverse the problems it causes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All well and good.  Nothing particularly earth shattering or innovative here.</p>
<p>Except for the absolutely insane recommendation to transition to the widespread use of breeder reactors.  That solution is orders of magnitudes more dangerous than the problems of global warming.  Sprinkling large scale factories of plutonium creating reactors around the world will destroy any hope to restrain nuclear proliferation, assisting in the creation of ever more nuclear weapons and nations possessing them.</p>
<p>Breeder reactors have many safety and security problems.  There need to be large scale reprocessing plants to separate nuclear waste and refine it into new fuel rods, adding to the management problem.  Large amounts of extraordinarily radioactive materials will have to be regularly transported by road, rail and water.</p>
<p>There is no long term solution for the safe storage and disposal of nuclear waste.  The half life of plutonium is 100,000 years.  At that point, one half of the plutonium has decayed into other daughter products, many of which are also highly radioactive.  It takes about one million years for plutonium to fully decay into stable, non-radioactive products.  The history of recorded civilization is perhaps 8,000 years old.  The limit for safe containment of nuclear wastes is less than one thousand years.  There is no geologically stable place to bury it for the time needed for decay.  Most storage technologies are only effective for a few hundred years, and we have already had widespread contamination from earlier storage methods that failed.</p>
<p>Time between ice ages is about 10,000 to 100,000 years.  The effects of global warming could be absorbed and corrected by the natural processes of the earth well before the nucleotides have finished their decay.</p>
<p>Radioactive products not only cause cancers and other diseases, but can alter DNA and genetic materials of many species including our own.  Most mutations are not beneficial to the individual or the species.  Nuclear testing and radioactive leaks have already more than doubled the background radiation of the earth.</p>
<p>Please, do not recommend a widespread science experiment be performed on all of creation, with no way to predict the full outcomes, and no way contain or reverse the problems it causes.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<description>&quot;in five major coastal cities (New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, San Diego, and San Jose), &quot;

I&#039;m surprised to see San Jose included in this lineup since it is neither coastal not low lying. The Wickipedia has its elevation at 26 meters or 85 feet. I&#039;m thinking that Miami would be a far better substitute and far more vulnerable.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m surprised to see San Jose included in this lineup since it is neither coastal not low lying. The Wickipedia has its elevation at 26 meters or 85 feet. I&#8217;m thinking that Miami would be a far better substitute and far more vulnerable.</p>
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