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	<title>Comments on: VerseDay: The futility of unconventional poetry</title>
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		<title>By: gingatao!</title>
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		<dc:creator>gingatao!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is, there are far too many people who think they can write, enormous amounts of reasonably good writing given away for free over the internet, and very few people who are willing to pay for it. Under those circumstances the chances of a poet earning a living from his/her work is exactly the same as it has always been, miniscule. Not that it matters,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is, there are far too many people who think they can write, enormous amounts of reasonably good writing given away for free over the internet, and very few people who are willing to pay for it. Under those circumstances the chances of a poet earning a living from his/her work is exactly the same as it has always been, miniscule. Not that it matters,</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of me is afraid to try adapting it. I think part of why it works is because of the unexpected stage motif - it&#039;s unconventional and jarring as a result - and I wonder if it would have the same impact if it were transposed into an actual stage work.

Don&#039;t think I haven&#039;t thought about it, though....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of me is afraid to try adapting it. I think part of why it works is because of the unexpected stage motif &#8211; it&#8217;s unconventional and jarring as a result &#8211; and I wonder if it would have the same impact if it were transposed into an actual stage work.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think I haven&#8217;t thought about it, though&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiel Aisha Ansari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiel Aisha Ansari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam-- I hear what you&#039;re saying. When I first decided to get serious about getting published (approx 1 1/2 years ago)  went to Powell&#039;s Books and to the county library (I live in Portland, OR) and speed-read through all the poetry journals I could get my hands on. It was like drinking sewage out of a fire-hose.

Since then I&#039;ve been working my way up through various online zines and refining my submission strategies for paper ones-- I do mostly formal poetry, so I&#039;ve aimed for The Lyric and Measure. It&#039;ll never get me anything that counts as a &quot;professional&quot; credential, but so what-- I already have  a day job that I like and that pays well. (And I do appreciate that that makes me one of the rare and lucky ones.)

I&#039;m not fond of open mics and slams, for all the reasons cited above, but I have really enjoyed doing readings at local coffeeshops and so forth. I did it monthly for most of a year and then had to quit due to some health problems. Now that those are resolved I need to get myself back into it.

I did like &quot;Archipelago&quot;, tho I agree that it might work better as an actual stage or multi-media type presentation than as text. You might explore converting it into multi-media and see if you can find a place to present it online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam&#8211; I hear what you&#8217;re saying. When I first decided to get serious about getting published (approx 1 1/2 years ago)  went to Powell&#8217;s Books and to the county library (I live in Portland, OR) and speed-read through all the poetry journals I could get my hands on. It was like drinking sewage out of a fire-hose.</p>
<p>Since then I&#8217;ve been working my way up through various online zines and refining my submission strategies for paper ones&#8211; I do mostly formal poetry, so I&#8217;ve aimed for The Lyric and Measure. It&#8217;ll never get me anything that counts as a &#8220;professional&#8221; credential, but so what&#8211; I already have  a day job that I like and that pays well. (And I do appreciate that that makes me one of the rare and lucky ones.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not fond of open mics and slams, for all the reasons cited above, but I have really enjoyed doing readings at local coffeeshops and so forth. I did it monthly for most of a year and then had to quit due to some health problems. Now that those are resolved I need to get myself back into it.</p>
<p>I did like &#8220;Archipelago&#8221;, tho I agree that it might work better as an actual stage or multi-media type presentation than as text. You might explore converting it into multi-media and see if you can find a place to present it online.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words, Jim. I kinda felt like it was a good poem, to the extent that it was a poem at all, but given length and format and the fact that it&#039;s so different, I don&#039;t have a lot of hope for publication. I&#039;ll check into Conduit, though - sounds interesting, and I&#039;m always looking for people who get it.

I&#039;m not sure if there is an open mic around here, but if there is I should find it. I do love doing readings, but haven&#039;t done one in a long time.

Hope you check back for more of our verse days....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words, Jim. I kinda felt like it was a good poem, to the extent that it was a poem at all, but given length and format and the fact that it&#8217;s so different, I don&#8217;t have a lot of hope for publication. I&#8217;ll check into Conduit, though &#8211; sounds interesting, and I&#8217;m always looking for people who get it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if there is an open mic around here, but if there is I should find it. I do love doing readings, but haven&#8217;t done one in a long time.</p>
<p>Hope you check back for more of our verse days&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Benz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Benz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, it really doesn&#039;t hurt that much to get your work rejected - once you get used to it.  and nobody will really tell you </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, it really doesn&#8217;t hurt that much to get your work rejected &#8211; once you get used to it.  and nobody will really tell you</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim et al, this is part of the reason I haven&#039;t published my own short stories.  Sam&#039;s the one person besides me who&#039;s even seen one (he graciously consented to help me edit the sucker), and it took me a while to gather up the courage for me to shoot it off to him.  Even my wife hasn&#039;t read my first story (she&#039;s had the chance but not the interest - it&#039;s a cyberpunk setting and that&#039;s not her thing).  I&#039;m outright terrified of submitting something that I poured hundreds or thousands of hours into over a decade plus and being told &quot;You suck, go away, never bother me with your blather ever again.&quot;  Given the fact that my first story or two won&#039;t make me anything anyway, I&#039;m starting to consider publishing a story or two on my own website for free, just to see if it grabs any interest and to see if my writing is good enough to put myself through the stress of a real submission.

When I say in my profile that my passion is writing, I&#039;m not kidding in any way - I just can&#039;t afford to live on my writing.  Writing full time (fiction or non-fiction) just won&#039;t pay the bills without a massive following willing to pay for my stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim et al, this is part of the reason I haven&#8217;t published my own short stories.  Sam&#8217;s the one person besides me who&#8217;s even seen one (he graciously consented to help me edit the sucker), and it took me a while to gather up the courage for me to shoot it off to him.  Even my wife hasn&#8217;t read my first story (she&#8217;s had the chance but not the interest &#8211; it&#8217;s a cyberpunk setting and that&#8217;s not her thing).  I&#8217;m outright terrified of submitting something that I poured hundreds or thousands of hours into over a decade plus and being told &#8220;You suck, go away, never bother me with your blather ever again.&#8221;  Given the fact that my first story or two won&#8217;t make me anything anyway, I&#8217;m starting to consider publishing a story or two on my own website for free, just to see if it grabs any interest and to see if my writing is good enough to put myself through the stress of a real submission.</p>
<p>When I say in my profile that my passion is writing, I&#8217;m not kidding in any way &#8211; I just can&#8217;t afford to live on my writing.  Writing full time (fiction or non-fiction) just won&#8217;t pay the bills without a massive following willing to pay for my stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D: &quot;Archipelago&quot; is unlike anything I&#039;ve written, and really, it&#039;s unlike anything I&#039;ve ever seen. If somebody were to say that it wasn&#039;t even poetry, I might have a hard time arguing. There&#039;s poetry in it, but I think the reason you feel so much authenticity in it is because what you&#039;re reading are the real words. The people I&#039;m talking with are actual friends, and those e-mails are the actual e-mails. That&#039;s the real suicide letter (translated) and the real newspaper notice. Some of the dramatization stuff is built around things people said to me, as well, although most of that stuff is in fact original. But the use of the theater metaphor made sense because that&#039;s what Lars was really into - acting, writing, etc. And also because of that Scandinavian art and theater tradition - Strindberg fits perfectly, Munch....

So maybe there&#039;s so much non-original stuff in it that it isn&#039;t poetry. But your reaction tells me that it accomplishes what it set out to accomplish. I can tell you that it&#039;s still all I can do to read it without crying - for some reason, that suicide hit me in a place I never even knew existed until that e-mail arrived.

It&#039;s obviously really different, but I see what you mean about the Hip song, as well. They&#039;ve always been a whole lot smarter than your average band, and I think this illustrates why their fans are so loyal to them.

I&#039;ve thought about the potential for adapting &quot;Archipelago&quot; into a play or screenplay, but I wonder if I&#039;m capable of doing that without losing the edge - it seems that it&#039;s the performance metaphor that makes it powerful, and if it&#039;s adapted for actual performance, that metaphor goes away, right?

As for your band, don&#039;t give up - maybe someday you&#039;ll start writing songs that are tender and meaningful, too.....  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D: &#8220;Archipelago&#8221; is unlike anything I&#8217;ve written, and really, it&#8217;s unlike anything I&#8217;ve ever seen. If somebody were to say that it wasn&#8217;t even poetry, I might have a hard time arguing. There&#8217;s poetry in it, but I think the reason you feel so much authenticity in it is because what you&#8217;re reading are the real words. The people I&#8217;m talking with are actual friends, and those e-mails are the actual e-mails. That&#8217;s the real suicide letter (translated) and the real newspaper notice. Some of the dramatization stuff is built around things people said to me, as well, although most of that stuff is in fact original. But the use of the theater metaphor made sense because that&#8217;s what Lars was really into &#8211; acting, writing, etc. And also because of that Scandinavian art and theater tradition &#8211; Strindberg fits perfectly, Munch&#8230;.</p>
<p>So maybe there&#8217;s so much non-original stuff in it that it isn&#8217;t poetry. But your reaction tells me that it accomplishes what it set out to accomplish. I can tell you that it&#8217;s still all I can do to read it without crying &#8211; for some reason, that suicide hit me in a place I never even knew existed until that e-mail arrived.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obviously really different, but I see what you mean about the Hip song, as well. They&#8217;ve always been a whole lot smarter than your average band, and I think this illustrates why their fans are so loyal to them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought about the potential for adapting &#8220;Archipelago&#8221; into a play or screenplay, but I wonder if I&#8217;m capable of doing that without losing the edge &#8211; it seems that it&#8217;s the performance metaphor that makes it powerful, and if it&#8217;s adapted for actual performance, that metaphor goes away, right?</p>
<p>As for your band, don&#8217;t give up &#8211; maybe someday you&#8217;ll start writing songs that are tender and meaningful, too&#8230;..  <img src='http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ: not to stir something up here, but slams aren&#039;t necessarily a solution. They&#039;re popular and are driving interest, for sure, and that&#039;s a great thing. And it is a style that produce some great work.

But it&#039;s almost more like hip-hop than poetry, and a lot of great poetry simply isn&#039;t built for that environment. If I were doing one of those I probably have three or four that would work, but most of my stuff? No way.

So while I&#039;m glad writers whose work leans in that direction have an outlet, I wish there were an equally vibrant demand for what I do.

And your comments also point up something else. You use the term &quot;academic&quot; - a lot of the best work I see is neither academic (which isn&#039;t a bad way of describing the Iowa crowd) nor &quot;slam.&quot; Hell, I have no idea WHAT you&#039;d call my work. I guess as long as you aren&#039;t calling it &quot;crap&quot; I&#039;m okay, huh?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ: not to stir something up here, but slams aren&#8217;t necessarily a solution. They&#8217;re popular and are driving interest, for sure, and that&#8217;s a great thing. And it is a style that produce some great work.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s almost more like hip-hop than poetry, and a lot of great poetry simply isn&#8217;t built for that environment. If I were doing one of those I probably have three or four that would work, but most of my stuff? No way.</p>
<p>So while I&#8217;m glad writers whose work leans in that direction have an outlet, I wish there were an equally vibrant demand for what I do.</p>
<p>And your comments also point up something else. You use the term &#8220;academic&#8221; &#8211; a lot of the best work I see is neither academic (which isn&#8217;t a bad way of describing the Iowa crowd) nor &#8220;slam.&#8221; Hell, I have no idea WHAT you&#8217;d call my work. I guess as long as you aren&#8217;t calling it &#8220;crap&#8221; I&#8217;m okay, huh?  <img src='http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The futility of unconventional poetry&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m a poet. Whether I&#039;m a good one or a bad one is, I suppose, open to debate. But the fundamental fact of my life and career is that the business activities that define my professional existence these days are Plan C, at best. If the world worked th...</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m a poet. Whether I&#8217;m a good one or a bad one is, I suppose, open to debate. But the fundamental fact of my life and career is that the business activities that define my professional existence these days are Plan C, at best. If the world worked th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 01:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all happening at live venues anyway -- slams and open mikes. That&#039;s where the lifeblood of poetry is flowing these days.

And that&#039;s where poets are getting their biggest audiences.

Let the academic poets stay in their closed circle. The best of them only sell about 143 copies of their books. I don&#039;t even think they read each other unless forced to in order to get their MFAs.

Meanwhile, thanks, Jim Benz, for your worthy additions to S&amp;R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all happening at live venues anyway &#8212; slams and open mikes. That&#8217;s where the lifeblood of poetry is flowing these days.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s where poets are getting their biggest audiences.</p>
<p>Let the academic poets stay in their closed circle. The best of them only sell about 143 copies of their books. I don&#8217;t even think they read each other unless forced to in order to get their MFAs.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, thanks, Jim Benz, for your worthy additions to S&amp;R.</p>
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		<title>By: pattimccarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>pattimccarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still rather new at this blog thing, but wanted to respond to something &quot;Pint of Stout&quot; posted above, i.e., &quot;I haven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still rather new at this blog thing, but wanted to respond to something &#8220;Pint of Stout&#8221; posted above, i.e., &#8220;I haven</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, Jim, Darrell, et. al.,I&#039;m a fiction writer rather than a poet, but I understand your frustration with the corrupt system that is &quot;literary&quot; publishing (as for &quot;trade&quot; publishing, that&#039;s so hopeless an area I won&#039;t waste my time). I&#039;ve published two novels and any number of short stories, many on-line because I can&#039;t play the game of trying to please interns at traditional lit mags any more.

I burned out on that about 1995 after 20 years of trying to please the club. And it is a club. You&#039;re either in that club or you&#039;re not. I trained at SUNY-Albany under award winners (AWP guys and other insiders) and opted out of the club while there despite pleading and warnings from my profs that I must try to fit their mold. It took me many years to get my work out. But get it out I did. I&#039;m part of that underground that Jim Benz talks about, and I even get asked to submit pieces for e-journals occasionally now. One of those pieces was a diatribe against the university writing program club published in http://www.storysouth.com/spring2004/literaryminutiae.html

I encourage all of you to pursue your writing. If enough of us keep at it, we&#039;ll eventually create&#160;a tipping point against the corruption and protege patronage in literary circles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, Jim, Darrell, et. al.,I&#8217;m a fiction writer rather than a poet, but I understand your frustration with the corrupt system that is &#8220;literary&#8221; publishing (as for &#8220;trade&#8221; publishing, that&#8217;s so hopeless an area I won&#8217;t waste my time). I&#8217;ve published two novels and any number of short stories, many on-line because I can&#8217;t play the game of trying to please interns at traditional lit mags any more.</p>
<p>I burned out on that about 1995 after 20 years of trying to please the club. And it is a club. You&#8217;re either in that club or you&#8217;re not. I trained at SUNY-Albany under award winners (AWP guys and other insiders) and opted out of the club while there despite pleading and warnings from my profs that I must try to fit their mold. It took me many years to get my work out. But get it out I did. I&#8217;m part of that underground that Jim Benz talks about, and I even get asked to submit pieces for e-journals occasionally now. One of those pieces was a diatribe against the university writing program club published in <a href="http://www.storysouth.com/spring2004/literaryminutiae.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.storysouth.com/spring2004/literaryminutiae.html</a></p>
<p>I encourage all of you to pursue your writing. If enough of us keep at it, we&#8217;ll eventually create&nbsp;a tipping point against the corruption and protege patronage in literary circles.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, usually I hate poetry, because I literally don</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, usually I hate poetry, because I literally don</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, this isn&#039;t just a poetry issue, I know. A lot of good fiction writers hit the same wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this isn&#8217;t just a poetry issue, I know. A lot of good fiction writers hit the same wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this </description>
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		<title>By: Sam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt, Tomas, and I try to keep in mind that there are great poets who went undiscovered until later in life, or even in the case of somebody like Gerard manly Hopkins, after their deaths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt, Tomas, and I try to keep in mind that there are great poets who went undiscovered until later in life, or even in the case of somebody like Gerard manly Hopkins, after their deaths.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rapid growth of comments shows that your talking was not in vain. Congratulations. You have received the readership.
Each poet dreams to see his heart in hard covers, but that&#039;s a lot that depends on lots of circumstances.
My book wasn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rapid growth of comments shows that your talking was not in vain. Congratulations. You have received the readership.<br />
Each poet dreams to see his heart in hard covers, but that&#8217;s a lot that depends on lots of circumstances.<br />
My book wasn</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;in my black heart, a dimension
of the aimless quandary,
inherently amiss.&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, yes. I&#039;ve had that day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>in my black heart, a dimension<br />
of the aimless quandary,<br />
inherently amiss.</i></p>
<p>Ah, yes. I&#8217;ve had that day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be embarrassed about the outburst. I&#039;m embarrassed that I &lt;i&gt;haven&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; had a meltdown like this. Although with me, it&#039;s probably going to be at a concert when I finally snap off.

People should have the basic manners to know when to shut up. If they don&#039;t, the next best thing is for them to shut up because they&#039;re afraid to open their mouths....  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be embarrassed about the outburst. I&#8217;m embarrassed that I <i>haven&#8217;t</i> had a meltdown like this. Although with me, it&#8217;s probably going to be at a concert when I finally snap off.</p>
<p>People should have the basic manners to know when to shut up. If they don&#8217;t, the next best thing is for them to shut up because they&#8217;re afraid to open their mouths&#8230;.  <img src='http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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