Comments on: Homeland security: the lethal illusion

By: David Currie

David Currie — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:26:04 +0000

Speaking of lighting-up another bowl: doesn’t that insane law say it all about our government? They made the most useful plant on the planet illegal by saying it was a dangerous drug, even though it’s a safe, non-toxic herbal medicine. They say it has no medical use when in fact it was the most recommended medicine by doctors before it was banned. There were literally hundreds of different packagings for medicinal cannabis products sold in every city in our country, but the government now claims it has no medical use?! Plus cannabis hemp could provide for almost every need we have for food, fibre, etc. It’s all about money of course, and the petro-chemical cartels (and timber, etc.) don’t want cannabis available so they can force their toxic, destructive products on us. Getting back to the subject at hand, I’m optimistic despite how bad it looks. It’s always darkest before the dawn, and the over-reaching and arrogant Bushco administration is generating a backlash that may turn things around. The most important thing we need to do IMHO is get rid of the Federal Reserve banksters once and for all. We need to get control of our banking system first, because he who controls the money controls everything. Ron Paul is the only candidate who has made this the main issue of his campaign, plus he wants to do a lot of other things I agree with. It seems hopeless that he will be “allowed” to win considering they make most of us use rigged electronic voting machines, but you never know. After getting control of our money, then we can do all the other things that need to be done, including trying the war criminals who lied us into these wars, but we have to get control of our money first. The TEN TRILLION dollar debt our country incured with the banksters is illegal, so it will be null and void. The most important thing though is Truth: we need to educate ourselves about who are REAL enemy is, otherwise how can we fight him? I don’t believe in violence, but the second amendment was put there to protect the first. Fighting each other is exactly what they want, and they are happy to sell us the guns to kill each other with if that’s what we want to do. I suggest becoming enlightened to the Truth by using the internet, which has the Truth available for all inquiring minds. Websites like Jackie Patru’s http://www.sweetliberty.org and many others contain a huge amount of inspiring truthful information. To me reading about true history is the most fascinating subject, because what I learned was all disinformation and lies. That’s how they control us of course – the history books are rewritten each year depending on what they have planned for the future. “He who controls the past controls the future, and he who controls the present controls the past”. That is very true, except the internet has taken away their ability to control the past and they are desprately trying to censor it, so get some truth while it’s still available because it might disappear soon.

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:18:55 +0000

Ms. O’Brien,
I mentioned one ancestor from Italy. I also have documentation of the “other” side of the family, Knechel (norhern Euprope in case you don’t recognize the spelling) that fought in the Revolutionary war.
If M1′s were always 100% accurate at long range, we wouldn’t need foot soldiers with shotguns (a current weapon of choice in Iraq).
Your last response eloquently illustrated the round-about point I was trying to make.
again, “When I read the original article, I thought it was discussing the poor implementation of idiotic policy by those that are motivated by greed. ……. Get back to the original point. We the Sheeple need to find a way to get our own government, our homeland bretheren, to listen to the will of the sheeple.”

We the Sheeple need to learn to stand NEXT to each other and stop the racial “I’m a better American than you are” bullshit.
Because so many of the sheeple choose not to admit what they see what is happening, we’re going to lose.

David, I too live in Portland. I know where the
Gunderson yard is and what has/is being built.

Ms. O’Brien … light up another bowl and read this for fun.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21312504/

By: Russ Wellen

Russ Wellen — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:17:02 +0000

Yeah, I find the one silver lining of being a mud person is that we have a well-developed sense of irony.

By: Sam Smith

Sam Smith — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:16:17 +0000

David Currie: You might want to ponder the possibility that you’re missing some obvious sarcasm.

By: David Currie

David Currie — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:37:44 +0000

The last few comments are unbeliebable! If most people think like that we are all doomed. Divide and conquer is their motto, and getting us all killing each other is their plan. Who are “they”? “They” are the people who control the money, the media, medicine, the law, and of course our government. They are only 2-3% of the population, yet they dominate the most important parts of our society – doesn’t anyone have a problem with that? The head of Homeland Security is a hardcore Zionist, as is our new Attorney General. EVERY chairman of the Federal Reserve has been Jewish! My mother is Jewish – I’m not an “anti-semetic” person, although I am anti-jewish/zionist. I have high reguard for the Arab and Palestinian people though, and they are the true Semetic people. As for the Bible – it was written by the Pharisee and scribes (lawyers), as was the Koran. Every religion is their creation. Jesus Christ came to free us from ALL religions. After he died the Pharisee made a religion called “Christianity” using his life as its basis, which is totally against what he taught. Jesus was NOT a “jew” – that world wasn’t even used back then. I don’t believe in any religion, but I do believe Christ was a profit who taught God’s truth. The http://www.sweetliberty.org website is one of the best sources of truthful historical information I’ve found. Unfortunatly most people do not want to know the truth – they feel more comfortable believing the lies they are fed by the media and education (brainwashing). The world is in a seemingly hopeless mess, but people are waking-up to the truth all over the world. The jewish religion is truly the “Synagogue of Satan” and it’s purpose is world domination and enslavement. Judaism is their law religionized enforced by their “Sanhedrin”. The USSR was an example of jewish rule, and that’s what we are going to get in the USA if we don’t do something about it. The concentration camps are already built and staffed with foreign soldiers. They have over 100,000 railroad cars with shackles dispursed all over the country to serve the concentration camps. I live in Portland where Gunderson built the railroad cars with shackles for them. The Jewish Bolsheviks killed over 50,000,000 innocent people in the former Soviet Union, mostly Christians – THAT is what we have to look forward to if we allow them to control our country.

By: JS O'Brien

JS O'Brien — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:55:34 +0000

Mark:

You’re missing the point. One of my English ancestors was recorded just west of Jamestown in 1622. The Irish one was in Georgia in 1734. I don’t believe there was any question of “legality” then, and if they broke Amerind laws or custom, they didn’t care.

I am Northern European. You are Southern European from one of the mud races that live in that area of the world. Your ancestors came to America because they were too stupid and/or lazy to compete in the Old Country and needed a handout and directions on how to use indoor plumbing from good, hard-working Americans like my ancestors.. My ancestors came here to MAKE something of themselves.

Eye-talians are from the same mud genes as them Mehican immigrants, today. In fact, I’d say you wops, with your godfathering and protection rackets and drug trade are far worse. It’s just genetic inferiority. Quick. Why do Italian tanks have rearview mirrors? So that they can see the battle!

HAR HAR HAR!!

Heck, you EYE-talians couldn’t take tanks and beat a bunch of spear chuckin’ Ethiopians during WWII. That’s how degenerate your race has become.

In fact, you’re so genetically inferior that you don’t even know that an M1A2 is an Abrams TANK!!!

Go home where you belong. You and your mafioso family and buddies don’t belong here with good, God-fearin’ ‘Mericans like my family.

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:51:31 +0000

Mr/Ms O’Brien,
Since you have a non-native American name (hint: O’Brien), you too are an immigrant. I’ll bet your family tree can can be traced as legally landing on this mass of land. Just like my grandfather Giovanni Paolini, through Ellis Island from Italy, legally.
And since you are 16th generation, you too were, indirectly, part of the annihilation of a peaceful (for the most part, “they” had no aspirations to dominate the world) civilization of natives. Don’t take the “greater than thou” approach.
Instead of thinking about your semi-automatic rifle being better than my shotgun (each have their place); how about you and I consider standing side by side as Americans?
I’ve got whisky, you’ve got pot. What you miss at long range with your M1, I’ll cover the short range targets with my artwork shotgun.

By: JS O'Brien

JS O'Brien — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:01:21 +0000

But Mark, according to my Mother, I’m a 16th generation Virginian. That makes you a @#$%$!immigrant. How DARE you think you have as much right to American soil as I do. How DARE YOU!

I hate it when immigrants like you get a free ride on the sweat of MY ancestors!

As for barricading yourself with a shotgun, I think I’d like to see that up against an M1A2.

Think you could arrange that?

By: augustus hadrian

augustus hadrian — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:00:44 +0000

There always has to be a number one. better us than the evil chinese.

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:33:19 +0000

Amazing. When I read the original article, I thought it was discussing the poor implementation of idiotic policy by those that are motivated by greed.
But then the discussion morphs into debate regarding what group did what to the other group …. 2-3,000 years ago.
Read that again … you are arguing over what happened 2-3,000 YEARS AGO.
Get back to the original point. We the Sheeple need to find a way to get our own government, our homeland bretheren, to listen to the will of the sheeple.
One comment from above is totally true, we send an Anglo-Saxon 8th generation American to prison for an ounce of pot, but are afraid to ask someone of dark complexion if they have a green card, because it may lead to a lawsuit. Where are our priorities?
While the arm-chair historians are arguing about ancient history, there is a minority of legal, USA loving Americans that see us losing the war on terror and seeing our borders erased.
I too am stocking up on on dry goods and ammo. Die standing up. If I can’t come up with an ounce of pot, I guess I’ll have to settle for a couple cases of my favorite whisky. You dam well better know the password if you come to my house.
A 9 round semi-automatic full choke short barrel 12 GA shotgun is indeed a work of art.
The arm-chair historians can’t see the train that is about to run their ass over … because their noses are buried in yesterday, instead of their eyes on today.

By: leelancs.

leelancs. — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:16:38 +0000

man there is no defense against one truely determined man/woman willing to die for their beliefs.we should leave iraq to its own people and afghanistan.we have become paraihs in the muslim world due to our continued support of isreal and their extremre policy concerning palistien.

By: JS O'Brien

JS O'Brien — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:13:41 +0000

Stu:

It isn’t useful to use facts and logic for some people. I can’t convince you that the world is spherical if you’re determined to believe that the world is flat.

But, what the hey, let’s just take the Jews, shall we?

No one knows where the original nation of Israel came from (Exodus isn’t trustworthy), but the first possible mention of it is on a stela erected by Merneptah circa 1200 BCE or so. One very likely explanation is that the word “Hebrew” comes from variations of both the Egyptian ‘Apiru and the Hittite (actually Neshili) Hapiru. Both words meant “stateless wanderers,” which would dovetail nicely with the oral history of Exodus that talks about wandering in the wilderness.

With the coming of the Sea People, historical records become spotty. The Bible says that the Hebrews fought the Philistines and, in fact, there was a tribe the Egyptians called the “Peleset” who settled in Gaza. The remains of their culture can be found in the archeological digs in Ashkelon. They also fought the Amorites, which is probably Egyptian “Amurru” along the Lebanese coast, south of modern Ras Shamra.

The Israelites were certainly in Judea and the modern Jezreel Valley when the neo-Assyrians invaded in the 8th centure BCE, and they were there when the Babylonians conquered them shortly thereafter, and they were there when the Persians reinstated them, when Alexander came through, when the Macedonian kingdom split up, and when the Romans took possession. All these events show up in both bibical and non-biblical sources.

The Kazars are from central Asia and did, in fact, convert to Judaism around 700 years or so after the Temple was burned. There are, indeed, some people who feel that Ashkenazic Jews are descendents of Kazars (not that it matters), but there isn’t a shred of credible evidence. There is, however, an extraordinary amount of evidence that Jews were in Alexandria, Rome, Antioch, Gaul, Britain, and throughout the Roman Empire long before the Kazars converted.

I didn’t take all that time for your benefit, Stu, because you’ve decided what you want to believe and nothing is going to change your mind. I just thought some other readers might be interested.

By: robertroels

robertroels — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:33:56 +0000

To the person who wrote a comment on “vote for Ron Pauls” and “illegal aliens”.

I am sorry, there are no “aliens”, legal or otherwise. Just human beings. Yes some are criminal, but most not.

If you want to tout that illegal stuff, Sitting Bull and Geronimo both spoke their peace on what they think of “immigrants” and the white man, as the Europeans stole their lands.

In short, most people in North America are here due to conquest of the red man.

Remember Waco and Oklahoma and 9/11 were not due to ‘Illegal Aliens”. Two of the tragedies were by Americans and the last one mostly Saudis who were here legally.

As for Ron Paul, I understand Storm Front Radio, a white supremacy organization, or a bunch of racists, endorsed him.

I don’t need to add to this.

By: Stu

Stu — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:57:42 +0000

Why is there a need to put someone down for their opinion? If you are speaking the TRUTH, then you are speaking from strength. If someones opinion is wrong then give them the facts without resorting to name calling etc. It helps to educate someone if you are instructing them and not belittling them. I was with the Messianic movement over 20 years ago and these people that call themselves “Jews” are descended from the Khazars, Edomites(and assorted pagans) and possibly the tribe of Dan. If I need correcting then please do it without belittling me, that just takes away from your argument.

By: Dr. Denny

Dr. Denny — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:19:44 +0000

Amen, Brother Brian. I can hear the howling …

By: JS O'Brien

JS O'Brien — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:08:08 +0000

David Currie;

I’m surprised that you’re disturbed when we don’t believe the things you believe. You’d think that would be obvious because, after all, the people who post here are generally … what’s the word I’m looking for … “smart”? Nah. That”s not it. “Well-educated?” Mmm. Kind of goes with smart and it’s close but …. OH … I know! … the word is “sane.”

By: Brian Angliss

Brian Angliss — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:12:49 +0000

Wow. It’s hard to hear the signal for the noise on this one

And to think, the moon’s only half full….

By: David Currie

David Currie — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:01:29 +0000

I find it disturbing that most people here actually believe the lie that Arabs from Al Qaeda had anything to do with 9/11 or 7/7 in the UK… The Talmudists who currently call themselves Jews (they used to call themselves Pharisee) have been behind almost all the wars, terrorist attacks and assassinations throughout history – currently we call them Zionists. The Communist revolution in the USSR was totally conducted by the Zionists, and of the original approximately 380 boshevik “comisars” of the communist party (the leaders) 300 were jewish with 265 of those coming from the USA. Yes that’s right – the communist revolution in the USSR was totally controlled by jews from the USA! They then proceeded to kill tens of millions of innocent Christians, some historians think it was 50-100 MILLION innocent people killed by the jewish bolsheviks, yet all we here about is a jewish holohoax in Europe that never happened to the extent they claim. Even if it did happen, th jews killed ten times as many christians in the USSR. The jews have no claim on Israel, as their decendents never touched that land – they are decended from the Khazars. The illegal Zionist state of Israel attacked the USA in 1967 when they tried to sink the Liberty and kill everyone onboard – that was an act of war we all know about, but nobody seems to care. We should have invaded Israel and disarmed them at that time, and we still need to do it before its too late. They plan to enslave the whole world, as they tell us in the Protocols of Zionism. One of the best sources for this factual information backed-up by historic documents is Jackie Patru’s website at http://www.sweetliberty.org website. WAKE-UP people! Arabs and “Al Qaeda” (a CIA creation) had nothing to do with 9/11/01 false-flag terrorist attacks, so quit pretending that lie is true or you WILL become victims of the Talmudist Zionist scum who have always waged genocidal war against all us “goyim” (non-jews) and “lesser-brethen” (jews who are not Talmudists). They get us all to kill each other while they sit-back and profit off of it and laugh at us for being so stupid… The ONLY thing that can save us is to know the Truth. Sadly most people seem to want to believe all the lies that have been exposed repeatedly rather than reading about the truth on websites like Jackie Patru’s http://www.sweetliberty.org. ~PEACE~

By: Stu

Stu — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:18:37 +0000

Forget about chasing Osama, Saddam, etc. The only people that really are being chased or fleeced are we the sheeple.

By: Thomast

Thomast — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:00:19 +0000

We should be chasing Osama instead of Sadaam, you say. You mean that guy who was last reported dying of kidney falure in a M East hospital, then nipped off to a cave in Afghan, to shut down the half trillion dollar US air defenses with his laptop. Yeah right.