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	<title>Comments on: Starting Hillary as your quarterback is a loser&#8217;s game</title>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/11/20/starting-hillary-as-your-quarterback-is-a-losers-game/comment-page-1/#comment-8598</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ,

I&#039;m glad you recognize that. But it says something sad about our culture that we take our leaders&#039; acumen about sports figures that seriously. I certainly didn&#039;t need Giuliani switching sides like that to convince me he was a douchebag, but apparently many did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you recognize that. But it says something sad about our culture that we take our leaders&#8217; acumen about sports figures that seriously. I certainly didn&#8217;t need Giuliani switching sides like that to convince me he was a douchebag, but apparently many did.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary doesn&#039;t ever talk about trading commodities, but she knows how to trade.  She managed to start out with a thousand dollars, make twelve winning trades in a row, and increase her stake more than a hundred fold.  She&#039;s so good that they even allowed her to use less than the margin required for her initial trade.  I wonder why she quit.  At the rate she was winning, she would ahve owned all of the money on the entire planet.

I admire her trading acumen, and she&#039;s mot a pro as she learned how to trade as a litttle girl,sitting at her father&#039;s lap listening to him read rhe WSJ.

It took me 10 years to learn how to trade, and she got it down as a kid with only a few lessons.

I tip my hat to her.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary doesn&#8217;t ever talk about trading commodities, but she knows how to trade.  She managed to start out with a thousand dollars, make twelve winning trades in a row, and increase her stake more than a hundred fold.  She&#8217;s so good that they even allowed her to use less than the margin required for her initial trade.  I wonder why she quit.  At the rate she was winning, she would ahve owned all of the money on the entire planet.</p>
<p>I admire her trading acumen, and she&#8217;s mot a pro as she learned how to trade as a litttle girl,sitting at her father&#8217;s lap listening to him read rhe WSJ.</p>
<p>It took me 10 years to learn how to trade, and she got it down as a kid with only a few lessons.</p>
<p>I tip my hat to her.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Martin. I knew I shouldn&#039;t have said that.

Hillary&#039;s spoken about baseball. Remember how she tried to be a Cubs and Yankees fan at the same time? (Like Giuliani rooting for the Red Sox after the Yankees folded.)

JSO -- True, I can&#039;t let go of a metaphor sometimes and stretch it to fit my needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Martin. I knew I shouldn&#8217;t have said that.</p>
<p>Hillary&#8217;s spoken about baseball. Remember how she tried to be a Cubs and Yankees fan at the same time? (Like Giuliani rooting for the Red Sox after the Yankees folded.)</p>
<p>JSO &#8212; True, I can&#8217;t let go of a metaphor sometimes and stretch it to fit my needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,

It&#039;s still a very gross assumption to make, and very unlike Russ--whose work is normally exceedingly nuanced and well-thought. Hillary&#039;s got gaffes aplenty to be discussed, and I just don&#039;t see a need to take a shot like that. 

I know many women who can out-jock me in the sports knowledge department any day of the week, so I never assume gender = interests in the modern age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still a very gross assumption to make, and very unlike Russ&#8211;whose work is normally exceedingly nuanced and well-thought. Hillary&#8217;s got gaffes aplenty to be discussed, and I just don&#8217;t see a need to take a shot like that. </p>
<p>I know many women who can out-jock me in the sports knowledge department any day of the week, so I never assume gender = interests in the modern age.</p>
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		<title>By: JS O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ:

This is an interesting metaphor, but I think it&#039;s like most metaphors in that, ultimately, it&#039;s a far-from-perfect fit.

Hilary is actually playing several football games.  There&#039;s the nomination football game, and the election football game.  There&#039;s also the football game to get swing voters, which are the ones that matter the most.

Unlike most football games, however, giving up a scoring pass in the first one (the primary) counts against you in the second one (the election).  And it counts most with the swing voters.

US politics has become a game of &quot;gotcha.&quot;  Everyone with a real shot is playing defense.

Come to think of it, Hilary may not be playing a prevent defense so much as she&#039;s playing a &quot;run-out-the-clock&quot; offense.  Don&#039;t pass.  Don&#039;t fumble.  Run out the clock on the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ:</p>
<p>This is an interesting metaphor, but I think it&#8217;s like most metaphors in that, ultimately, it&#8217;s a far-from-perfect fit.</p>
<p>Hilary is actually playing several football games.  There&#8217;s the nomination football game, and the election football game.  There&#8217;s also the football game to get swing voters, which are the ones that matter the most.</p>
<p>Unlike most football games, however, giving up a scoring pass in the first one (the primary) counts against you in the second one (the election).  And it counts most with the swing voters.</p>
<p>US politics has become a game of &#8220;gotcha.&#8221;  Everyone with a real shot is playing defense.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, Hilary may not be playing a prevent defense so much as she&#8217;s playing a &#8220;run-out-the-clock&#8221; offense.  Don&#8217;t pass.  Don&#8217;t fumble.  Run out the clock on the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting it back to me is of no value because I made no assumptions on the subject, nor did I use said assumptions to upbraid somebody else. I&#039;m just observating, is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting it back to me is of no value because I made no assumptions on the subject, nor did I use said assumptions to upbraid somebody else. I&#8217;m just observating, is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,

Let me put this back to you. Does her not talking about sports automatically mean she doesn&#039;t know about them?

I never talk about sports, for instance. Does that mean I can&#039;t? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Let me put this back to you. Does her not talking about sports automatically mean she doesn&#8217;t know about them?</p>
<p>I never talk about sports, for instance. Does that mean I can&#8217;t? <img src='http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin: Not that Russ needs me to stick up for him, but let me put it back to you this way. Hillary is a known quantity. She&#039;s been a very public person since the early 90s. Have you ever heard her talk about sports or give any indication in any way that she knows about sports?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin: Not that Russ needs me to stick up for him, but let me put it back to you this way. Hillary is a known quantity. She&#8217;s been a very public person since the early 90s. Have you ever heard her talk about sports or give any indication in any way that she knows about sports?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ,

You certainly won&#039;t find me as a Hillary defender, but don&#039;t you think it&#039;s more than a bit sexist for you to open by claiming she wouldn&#039;t understand a football metaphor? 

I know this may seem shocking, but there ARE women who actually do enjoy watching the pigskin get passed every now and again and could probably explain the game better than some men. 

I generally agree with your comments about Clinton, but that was weak sauce. You can do better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ,</p>
<p>You certainly won&#8217;t find me as a Hillary defender, but don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s more than a bit sexist for you to open by claiming she wouldn&#8217;t understand a football metaphor? </p>
<p>I know this may seem shocking, but there ARE women who actually do enjoy watching the pigskin get passed every now and again and could probably explain the game better than some men. </p>
<p>I generally agree with your comments about Clinton, but that was weak sauce. You can do better.</p>
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		<title>By: Repulicans Presidential Election 2008 &#187; Starting Hillary as your quarterback is a loserâ€™s game</title>
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		<dc:creator>Repulicans Presidential Election 2008 &#187; Starting Hillary as your quarterback is a loserâ€™s game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Russ Wellen added an interesting post on Starting Hillary as your quarterback is a loser&#226;</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting observations, Russ. One question - do you see any Dem who can take Hillary down before she gets the nomination? And do you see any other Dem electable in the general election? And who do the Repubs have that might appear and push Giuliani and Romney (or Huckabee) aside? Looks like it ain&#039;t gonna be Fred Thompson...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting observations, Russ. One question &#8211; do you see any Dem who can take Hillary down before she gets the nomination? And do you see any other Dem electable in the general election? And who do the Repubs have that might appear and push Giuliani and Romney (or Huckabee) aside? Looks like it ain&#8217;t gonna be Fred Thompson&#8230;</p>
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