Comments on: We Berate, You Deride – A closer look at the background of Steven J. Milloy, executive director of DemandDebate.com

By: Scholars and Rogues » ExxonMobil’s ironic ally: Steve Milloy

Scholars and Rogues » ExxonMobil’s ironic ally: Steve Milloy — Wed, 28 May 2008 03:06:43 +0000

[...] But the very first resolution to be voted on is not one that’s supported by the Rockefeller family. In fact, the very first resolution to be voted on is one that would specifically ban resolutions that qualify as “shareholder activism,” supposedly like the resolutions supported by the Rockefellers. And the first resolution was introduced by the Free Enterprise Action Fund (FEAFund), a mutual fund founded and managed by none other than S&R’s own favorite purveyor of global heating propaganda, Steven J. Milloy. [...]

By: Scholars and Rogues » Wal*Mart goes “moo”

Scholars and Rogues » Wal*Mart goes “moo” — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:48:51 +0000

[...] if people like Steve Milloy, who is paid to manipulate public perceptions of scientific data via this astro-turf website among [...]

By: Brian Angliss

Brian Angliss — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:50:25 +0000

Luckyleif - check out my own extensive discussions of these issues here. Note that not a single one of the myths I've debunked relies on Al Gore. If you would like to continue this discussion, let's take it there.

By: luckyleif

luckyleif — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:05:52 +0000

I see too many blogs that waste our time arguing about annual temperature differences (US, world, upper air, whatever) that differ from one another (or “the hottest”) by less than the margin of error of the measurements. For the US historical measurements on the GISTEMP website, the annual margin of error is 0.1 C; for the 5-year averages, it’s 0.045 C. Whatever your political inclinations, I’ll grant you whatever “warmest year” you want, especially if its difference from the next “warmest year” is within the error margin. BTW, trends fitted to the 127 year record, or any part of it, have NO validity in forecasting any future year. I don’t care about any “hockey sticks” either. FOCUS, people!

Now, if you’re at all serious, tell me why you accept – actively or passively – Mr. Gore’s blatant lies in Inconvenient Truth about the inconvenient Milankovitch Cycle. That’s the 400,000 year cycle of temperature change, due ONLY and TOTALLY to astronomical factors, as calculated 60+ years ago by an obscure Serbian mathematician. Gore not only claims the cycle is due to CO2; he assigns the magnitude of the change (~12 C) as well to CO2. It’s well-known (even at RealClimate.org) that the temp change preceeds the CO2 change by hundreds of years.

If you don’t know what this comment is about, go look up “Milankovitch” in an encyclopedia. Next, look at the current point on the cycle (even as presented by Gore). Think about what’s next. Hint: look at the previous 300,000 years. What went up, will come down. If you believe Gore is honest, tell us why. If you don’t believe Gore, where have you been all this time?

I’ll come back here sometime to see if there’s any answer, or you can respond to my website at http://www.colo-earthfriends.org. I’m unimpressed by profanity, obscenity, scatology, or gangsta’ rap, but if that’s what you need…….

luckyleif@colo-earthfriends.org

By: JS O'Brien

JS O'Brien — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:40:45 +0000

Wow. Just an amazing rundown and, clearly, an amazing amount of work.

Thank you!

By: Scholars and Rogues » We Berate, You Deride - DemandDebate.com’s survey on the scientific consensus surrounding global heating

Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:53:36 +0000

[...] Part 2 – A closer look at the background of Steven J. Milloy, executive director of DemandDebate.com [...]