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	<title>Comments on: We can rock &#8211; can we govern or educate&#8230;?</title>
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	<description>Think - it ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/03/we-can-rock-can-we-govern-or-educate/comment-page-1/#comment-9322</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surviving in show business is the hardest thing to do, especially in popular music. 99.9 % of all musicians who attempt to go pro fail. To succeed for one year is quite a feat for a musician, but to do so for thirty years, like, say, Bruce Springsteen--that&#039;s the hardest thing to do in the world. Therefore, anyone who can maintain a career in show business a la Bruce Springsteen, Frank Zappa (were he still alive), Neil Young, etc., should run for president or political office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surviving in show business is the hardest thing to do, especially in popular music. 99.9 % of all musicians who attempt to go pro fail. To succeed for one year is quite a feat for a musician, but to do so for thirty years, like, say, Bruce Springsteen&#8211;that&#8217;s the hardest thing to do in the world. Therefore, anyone who can maintain a career in show business a la Bruce Springsteen, Frank Zappa (were he still alive), Neil Young, etc., should run for president or political office.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Tipper is the skeleton in Al&#039;s closet.

Thanks, Fikshun, for YouTube Zappa link. &quot;Uncle Meat&quot; ruled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Tipper is the skeleton in Al&#8217;s closet.</p>
<p>Thanks, Fikshun, for YouTube Zappa link. &#8220;Uncle Meat&#8221; ruled.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget Gilberto Gil, Brazil&#039;s Minster of Culture and first rate bossa nova artist. Also, I suspect U2&#039;s Bono would have to qualify as &quot;unelected politician&quot; for his work on reducing Third World debt. Steve Van Zandt&#039;s recent efforts to promote a curriculum of history and cultural knowledge using rock and roll should be acknowledged as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget Gilberto Gil, Brazil&#8217;s Minster of Culture and first rate bossa nova artist. Also, I suspect U2&#8217;s Bono would have to qualify as &#8220;unelected politician&#8221; for his work on reducing Third World debt. Steve Van Zandt&#8217;s recent efforts to promote a curriculum of history and cultural knowledge using rock and roll should be acknowledged as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - Zappa is the musician&#039;s musician. He forgot more than most musicians ever know. In the way that Beatles songs have become standards, Frank&#039;s music has influenced so many artists - I hear all that blather about Velvet Underground and I think, &quot;Have you people never listened to Zappa?&quot; I hear him in everyone from Costello to The Strokes. My boys, for example, have a picture of him up in their place - they burn a candle in front of it, for gosh sakes....

fikshun - I agree about Tipper - I, as a fellow Boomer, offer my apologies that such a stupid, easily manipulated cow was born in my generation. PMRC served no one but the Republican repression machine - that Gore took part always besmirches him in my eyes - and I voted for him in 2000 out of desperation to prevent his evil twin Skippy from becoming President.... I failed, perhaps because the only right thing to do was demand somebody better - I keep wanting to think Al changed after 2000 and because of his environmental crusade sort of like Bobby did after JFK was killed. But that&#039;d be asking a lot from a guy who played to right wing sensibilities as he did....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; Zappa is the musician&#8217;s musician. He forgot more than most musicians ever know. In the way that Beatles songs have become standards, Frank&#8217;s music has influenced so many artists &#8211; I hear all that blather about Velvet Underground and I think, &#8220;Have you people never listened to Zappa?&#8221; I hear him in everyone from Costello to The Strokes. My boys, for example, have a picture of him up in their place &#8211; they burn a candle in front of it, for gosh sakes&#8230;.</p>
<p>fikshun &#8211; I agree about Tipper &#8211; I, as a fellow Boomer, offer my apologies that such a stupid, easily manipulated cow was born in my generation. PMRC served no one but the Republican repression machine &#8211; that Gore took part always besmirches him in my eyes &#8211; and I voted for him in 2000 out of desperation to prevent his evil twin Skippy from becoming President&#8230;. I failed, perhaps because the only right thing to do was demand somebody better &#8211; I keep wanting to think Al changed after 2000 and because of his environmental crusade sort of like Bobby did after JFK was killed. But that&#8217;d be asking a lot from a guy who played to right wing sensibilities as he did&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: fikshun</title>
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		<dc:creator>fikshun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a different world it would be if Frank were still alive and in politics.  YouTube has a great video of an episode of Crossfire with Frank Zappa and Robert Novak from the PMRC era.  I&#039;ve probably watched it four or five times over the last year or so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc

It&#039;s just my &quot;child of the &#039;80s&quot; perspective, but I still think Tipper Gore and her association with the PMRC cost Al the 2000 election.  I didn&#039;t vote for Bush, but I couldn&#039;t bring myself to vote for anyone connected with her, either.  In retrospect, it seems pretty trivial, but at the time I was thinking &quot;yeah, that&#039;s all we need is to see The Return of the Living PMRC&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a different world it would be if Frank were still alive and in politics.  YouTube has a great video of an episode of Crossfire with Frank Zappa and Robert Novak from the PMRC era.  I&#8217;ve probably watched it four or five times over the last year or so.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s just my &#8220;child of the &#8217;80s&#8221; perspective, but I still think Tipper Gore and her association with the PMRC cost Al the 2000 election.  I didn&#8217;t vote for Bush, but I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to vote for anyone connected with her, either.  In retrospect, it seems pretty trivial, but at the time I was thinking &#8220;yeah, that&#8217;s all we need is to see The Return of the Living PMRC&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the the way Zappa stood up to Tipper Gore during those hearings in the 1980&#039;s.  He was the most unappreciated artist in rock music, except by fellow musicians.  

It&#039;s amazing that I came onto this post just as &quot;Catholic Girls&quot; was playing.....I listen to a lot of Zappa.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the the way Zappa stood up to Tipper Gore during those hearings in the 1980&#8217;s.  He was the most unappreciated artist in rock music, except by fellow musicians.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing that I came onto this post just as &#8220;Catholic Girls&#8221; was playing&#8230;..I listen to a lot of Zappa.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t begin to testify that rock stars can govern. I can only say that I&#039;ve seen the job professional politicians do and I&#039;m willing to take the chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t begin to testify that rock stars can govern. I can only say that I&#8217;ve seen the job professional politicians do and I&#8217;m willing to take the chance.</p>
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		<title>By: We can rock - can we govern or educateâ€¦?</title>
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		<dc:creator>We can rock - can we govern or educateâ€¦?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post by Jim Booth         This was written by . Posted on Monday, December 3, 2007, at 2:15 pm. Filed under Politics. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/03/we-can-rock-can-we-govern-or-educate/comment-page-1/#comment-9246</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s amazing is that Garrett was no second-rate rocker turned politician like John Hall, the representative from New York (not to disrespect his work as a congressman), or zero-rated, like the bad Bono (Sonny).

Garrett led one of the greatest rock bands of all time, Midnight Oil, whose long string of top-quality albums stands up to anybody&#039;s from the Beatles to REM.

If he&#039;s half as good with the environment as he and his mates were with music, he can surpass Bob Geldof and the good Bono as a do-gooder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s amazing is that Garrett was no second-rate rocker turned politician like John Hall, the representative from New York (not to disrespect his work as a congressman), or zero-rated, like the bad Bono (Sonny).</p>
<p>Garrett led one of the greatest rock bands of all time, Midnight Oil, whose long string of top-quality albums stands up to anybody&#8217;s from the Beatles to REM.</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s half as good with the environment as he and his mates were with music, he can surpass Bob Geldof and the good Bono as a do-gooder.</p>
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		<title>By: Rho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more example of Rockers making a difference is Bono&#039;s project red which just donated $50million to AIDS research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more example of Rockers making a difference is Bono&#8217;s project red which just donated $50million to AIDS research.</p>
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