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	<title>Comments on: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid hates America and freedom</title>
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		<title>By: FISA Fight: Give Them Nothing&#8230; &#187; Boztopia.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>FISA Fight: Give Them Nothing&#8230; &#187; Boztopia.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In addition to Dodd, we&#8217;re seeing signs that other Senators will rise to filibuster the FISA legislation when it comes to the floor, or at the very least delay it until after the July 4 recess, giving progressives more time to drum up opposition. Feingold is beyond reproach here&#8211;as the sole Senator to vote against the PATRIOT Act, his credentials as a fighter for the Constitution are unimpeachable (so to speak). But what&#8217;s Reid&#8217;s angle? This is a guy who has mastered the art of surrendering spinelessly and calling it &#8220;compromise.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In addition to Dodd, we&#8217;re seeing signs that other Senators will rise to filibuster the FISA legislation when it comes to the floor, or at the very least delay it until after the July 4 recess, giving progressives more time to drum up opposition. Feingold is beyond reproach here&#8211;as the sole Senator to vote against the PATRIOT Act, his credentials as a fighter for the Constitution are unimpeachable (so to speak). But what&#8217;s Reid&#8217;s angle? This is a guy who has mastered the art of surrendering spinelessly and calling it &#8220;compromise.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: S.1959/HR1955 Did Not Win In House By Margin of 404-6 - Needs To Be Investigated</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.1959/HR1955 Did Not Win In House By Margin of 404-6 - Needs To Be Investigated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] caved into lobbyists and the Bush administration as documented by Scholars and Rogues. Read: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid hates America and freedom. The complicity of Democrats that we voted into power in 2006 is shocking and demoralizing to those [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] caved into lobbyists and the Bush administration as documented by Scholars and Rogues. Read: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid hates America and freedom. The complicity of Democrats that we voted into power in 2006 is shocking and demoralizing to those [...]</p>
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		<title>By: William Cormier</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Cormier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what to make of Congress&#039;s recent actions.I&#039;m posting an Op-Ed this morning that demonstrates the House DID NOT pass S.1959/HR1955 with an overwhelming majority of 404-6; there were at least 23 members of the House who were not present and didn&#039;t even know about the Bill in question. Something is amiss in Congress, in the House and Senate. We know that Pelosi &quot;took impeachment off the table&quot; because it turns out that she knew about the torture - yet kept her mouth shut even though she knew the US was breaking our own laws as well as International law.

There are too many instances of Bush getting his way, and democrats placing the blame on Republicans, where to me it seems like many Democrats are speaking out of both sides of their mouthes; we need an investigation as to why even the so-called &quot;votes&quot; are not actually accurate - and we need to know why!

William Cormier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what to make of Congress&#8217;s recent actions.I&#8217;m posting an Op-Ed this morning that demonstrates the House DID NOT pass S.1959/HR1955 with an overwhelming majority of 404-6; there were at least 23 members of the House who were not present and didn&#8217;t even know about the Bill in question. Something is amiss in Congress, in the House and Senate. We know that Pelosi &#8220;took impeachment off the table&#8221; because it turns out that she knew about the torture &#8211; yet kept her mouth shut even though she knew the US was breaking our own laws as well as International law.</p>
<p>There are too many instances of Bush getting his way, and democrats placing the blame on Republicans, where to me it seems like many Democrats are speaking out of both sides of their mouthes; we need an investigation as to why even the so-called &#8220;votes&#8221; are not actually accurate &#8211; and we need to know why!</p>
<p>William Cormier</p>
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		<title>By: farang</title>
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		<dc:creator>farang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Harry may need 60 votes to pass any legislation, that does not have any relation to actually pushing through this Bush-desired excrement of a law pardoning domestic spying upon us.

That he is actively trying to thwart Dodd says it all about re-electing ANY Democrats or Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Harry may need 60 votes to pass any legislation, that does not have any relation to actually pushing through this Bush-desired excrement of a law pardoning domestic spying upon us.</p>
<p>That he is actively trying to thwart Dodd says it all about re-electing ANY Democrats or Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Rho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela,
While I agree that the right wing fanatics who currently hold sway in my party may fit with you &quot;rape and pillage&quot; diatribe I don&#039;t believe it is fair to categorize all republicans as evil any more than it would be right to look at Reid and so declare all democrats incompetent. I believe there are a number of repugnicans and democraps out there but then there are some of us in each party who have some sense and deserve to respectfully referred to as republicans and democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela,<br />
While I agree that the right wing fanatics who currently hold sway in my party may fit with you &#8220;rape and pillage&#8221; diatribe I don&#8217;t believe it is fair to categorize all republicans as evil any more than it would be right to look at Reid and so declare all democrats incompetent. I believe there are a number of repugnicans and democraps out there but then there are some of us in each party who have some sense and deserve to respectfully referred to as republicans and democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rho, I&#039;m a Democrat, but normally I&#039;d agree with you about a balance of powers.  But now is not &quot;normally&quot;, and the Republicans have been only having one agenda, disrupt anything the Democrats do to make them look ineffective, and follow the Republican leadership to enrich the global corporations.  They have done so much damage over the past twelve years that there needs to be a strong democratic majority EVERYWHERE to start to correct the damage.  But don&#039;t worry, when the consequences of the Bush/Cheney/Rove regime come to fruition, Democrats will be in charge.  And they will be blamed, and the Republicans will come back to rape and pillage some more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rho, I&#8217;m a Democrat, but normally I&#8217;d agree with you about a balance of powers.  But now is not &#8220;normally&#8221;, and the Republicans have been only having one agenda, disrupt anything the Democrats do to make them look ineffective, and follow the Republican leadership to enrich the global corporations.  They have done so much damage over the past twelve years that there needs to be a strong democratic majority EVERYWHERE to start to correct the damage.  But don&#8217;t worry, when the consequences of the Bush/Cheney/Rove regime come to fruition, Democrats will be in charge.  And they will be blamed, and the Republicans will come back to rape and pillage some more.</p>
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		<title>By: rudyspeaks</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/14/senate-majority-leader-harry-reid-hates-america-and-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-10034</link>
		<dc:creator>rudyspeaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah! When the repugs controlled congress, i.e. when it made no difference, he talked a good talk, but now, when fighting back might have an effect, he obstructs real resistance. Typical Democrat. Wake up! It&#039;s two corporate parties and they cooperate to advance the corperate agenda. &quot;But voting Green just wastes your vote.&quot; That thinking got you a Democratic majority...big diff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah! When the repugs controlled congress, i.e. when it made no difference, he talked a good talk, but now, when fighting back might have an effect, he obstructs real resistance. Typical Democrat. Wake up! It&#8217;s two corporate parties and they cooperate to advance the corperate agenda. &#8220;But voting Green just wastes your vote.&#8221; That thinking got you a Democratic majority&#8230;big diff</p>
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		<title>By: Omnipotent Poobah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omnipotent Poobah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the competence scale, he&#039;s the Democrat equivalent to George Bush except less chimpy looking and with more of a befuddled owl thing going on.

The man is a first-class chump.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the competence scale, he&#8217;s the Democrat equivalent to George Bush except less chimpy looking and with more of a befuddled owl thing going on.</p>
<p>The man is a first-class chump.</p>
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		<title>By: Rho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
I must say I disagree about electing a Dem Pres and 9 more Dem senators. I hated the idea of the Republicans having a lock on both houses and the Presidency even though I am a Republican. I would feel the same way about the Democrats, or anyone else having such a  Lock. I personally believe we need a separation of control as a balance of power so no one ideology gets a free run. We saw what a bad idea that was in Bush&#039;s first term and we don&#039;t need any more of that type of crap. And don&#039;t say the Democrats won&#039;t run rough-shod over the US public if given the same chance because I wouldn&#039;t believe you. &quot;Total power corrupts totally&quot; just look at Rome and the Catholic Church if you disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
I must say I disagree about electing a Dem Pres and 9 more Dem senators. I hated the idea of the Republicans having a lock on both houses and the Presidency even though I am a Republican. I would feel the same way about the Democrats, or anyone else having such a  Lock. I personally believe we need a separation of control as a balance of power so no one ideology gets a free run. We saw what a bad idea that was in Bush&#8217;s first term and we don&#8217;t need any more of that type of crap. And don&#8217;t say the Democrats won&#8217;t run rough-shod over the US public if given the same chance because I wouldn&#8217;t believe you. &#8220;Total power corrupts totally&#8221; just look at Rome and the Catholic Church if you disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/14/senate-majority-leader-harry-reid-hates-america-and-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-10028</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a purely pragmatic standpoint, one huge difference between the two parties is that the Republicans are all on the same side.

When you have Army A shooting at Army B and Army B also shooting at Army B, it&#039;s not hard to know who to bet on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a purely pragmatic standpoint, one huge difference between the two parties is that the Republicans are all on the same side.</p>
<p>When you have Army A shooting at Army B and Army B also shooting at Army B, it&#8217;s not hard to know who to bet on.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got one for you...

no matter how talented you are, you are always outnumbered by the mediocre..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got one for you&#8230;</p>
<p>no matter how talented you are, you are always outnumbered by the mediocre..</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Silvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Silvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I find this FISA move very disppointing too, Martin, and I cannot find a good reason for failing to honor Dodd&#039;s hold, I disagree strongly about Reid&#039;s effectiveness overall. Reid has a one-vote majority, so he cannot afford to lose even one senator&#039;s vote--Joe Lieberman&#039;s, for instance--or he&#039;s in the minority, since Cheney can break tie votes. But in fact he really is effectively in the minority anyway, because Senate rules require 60 votes to do anything in the real world. (And no, insisting on a real filibuster would be unlikely to change anything except stop all Senate business cold. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_12/012700.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kevin Drum here&lt;/a&gt;.) And then there&#039;s the veto, which means that just 34 senators and W can stop anything.

Under these ridiculous institutional constraints, Reid is a genius for accomplishing the very little he has been able to accomplish. He passed an Iraq bill that included a withdrawal requirement, and Bush vetoed it. He passed S-CHIP twice, and Bush vetoed it. He came within one vote (got 59!) of passing an energy bill with teeth.

So let&#039;s elect a Democratic president and nine more Democratic senators. Then let&#039;s work to change a few of the antidemocratic institutional constraints. Then let&#039;s see what Harry Reid can accomplish.

In the meantime, piling on Reid seems like engaging in a circular firing squad. He is not the enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I find this FISA move very disppointing too, Martin, and I cannot find a good reason for failing to honor Dodd&#8217;s hold, I disagree strongly about Reid&#8217;s effectiveness overall. Reid has a one-vote majority, so he cannot afford to lose even one senator&#8217;s vote&#8211;Joe Lieberman&#8217;s, for instance&#8211;or he&#8217;s in the minority, since Cheney can break tie votes. But in fact he really is effectively in the minority anyway, because Senate rules require 60 votes to do anything in the real world. (And no, insisting on a real filibuster would be unlikely to change anything except stop all Senate business cold. See <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_12/012700.php" rel="nofollow">Kevin Drum here</a>.) And then there&#8217;s the veto, which means that just 34 senators and W can stop anything.</p>
<p>Under these ridiculous institutional constraints, Reid is a genius for accomplishing the very little he has been able to accomplish. He passed an Iraq bill that included a withdrawal requirement, and Bush vetoed it. He passed S-CHIP twice, and Bush vetoed it. He came within one vote (got 59!) of passing an energy bill with teeth.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s elect a Democratic president and nine more Democratic senators. Then let&#8217;s work to change a few of the antidemocratic institutional constraints. Then let&#8217;s see what Harry Reid can accomplish.</p>
<p>In the meantime, piling on Reid seems like engaging in a circular firing squad. He is not the enemy.</p>
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