Comments on: Dr. Slammy in 2008: Discipline and the sanctity of the learning environment http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/ Think. It ain't illegal yet... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:58:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: DomPierre http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-11144 DomPierre Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:39:43 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/#comment-11144 I'm not sure if Aus is doing that today (or if they used to do that), except that back in the 60s-70s, higher education was free (from what I hear second-hand), and I suspect that's why Aus' has been enjoying an economic boom the last decade. Today, the direction has been to follow the recent US model of higher education & higher costs. I confess, I loved Melbourne and Sydney when i was there. I’m not sure if Aus is doing that today (or if they used to do that), except that back in the 60s-70s, higher education was free (from what I hear second-hand), and I suspect that’s why Aus’ has been enjoying an economic boom the last decade. Today, the direction has been to follow the recent US model of higher education & higher costs.

I confess, I loved Melbourne and Sydney when i was there.

]]> By: Russ Wellen http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-11074 Russ Wellen Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:38:26 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/#comment-11074 Dom Pierre, Isn't it Australia that, instead of sending aspiring young business-people to college, apprentices them directly to corporations? It's like internship without a college to assign you. Dr. S, Re corporal punishment. With my son, whom I can't seem to disabuse of the notion that I'm his peer, I've often felt that without being allowed to spank him, I'm like a taxi driver who's cab has no horn. (Happened to me once.) I secretly suspect that rules and laws have been enacted to halt corporal punishment not because of the practice itself, but to curb serial physical abusers. I certainly don't believe in corporal punishment for real. But I do believe in yelling your head off to shake a kid up -- and to siphon off frustration and keep you from hitting him. Dom Pierre, Isn’t it Australia that, instead of sending aspiring young business-people to college, apprentices them directly to corporations? It’s like internship without a college to assign you.

Dr. S, Re corporal punishment. With my son, whom I can’t seem to disabuse of the notion that I’m his peer, I’ve often felt that without being allowed to spank him, I’m like a taxi driver who’s cab has no horn. (Happened to me once.)

I secretly suspect that rules and laws have been enacted to halt corporal punishment not because of the practice itself, but to curb serial physical abusers.

I certainly don’t believe in corporal punishment for real. But I do believe in yelling your head off to shake a kid up — and to siphon off frustration and keep you from hitting him.

]]> By: DomPierre http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-10997 DomPierre Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:25:18 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/#comment-10997 You may remember I commented a few months ago on whether there was really a need today for a college education. Looks like "conservatives" (who were for deregulation and outsourcing before they were against it) are now questioning the value of college education. I really hate Phyllis Schafly for the dingy broad she is and because she's to the right of Ronnie Rayguns, but here's her latest <a href="http://www.townhall.com/columnists/PhyllisSchlafly/2007/12/31/college_no_prerequisite_for_many_new_careers" rel="nofollow">column</a> she's paid to write as an "expert". Always the "conservatives" who sell the country out and then want to save it once they see the mess they've made. You may remember I commented a few months ago on whether there was really a need today for a college education.

Looks like “conservatives” (who were for deregulation and outsourcing before they were against it) are now questioning the value of college education.

I really hate Phyllis Schafly for the dingy broad she is and because she’s to the right of Ronnie Rayguns, but here’s her latest column she’s paid to write as an “expert”.

Always the “conservatives” who sell the country out and then want to save it once they see the mess they’ve made.

]]> By: Dr. Slammy http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-10776 Dr. Slammy Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:09:50 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/#comment-10776 This is a defining characteristic of the Millennial Generation. The first Mills were born in or around 1980. This is a defining characteristic of the Millennial Generation. The first Mills were born in or around 1980.

]]> By: TeachingAsst-L http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-10770 TeachingAsst-L Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:39:37 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/#comment-10770 I do get respect from most of my students (most are freshmen), but I have a different problem - entitlement. They seem to think they will automatically get an extra credit assignment, study guide, etc. And if they miss class they e-mail me and ask me to send them notes for the days they missed! When did that start happening!?! I do get respect from most of my students (most are freshmen), but I have a different problem – entitlement. They seem to think they will automatically get an extra credit assignment, study guide, etc. And if they miss class they e-mail me and ask me to send them notes for the days they missed! When did that start happening!?!

]]> By: Dr. Slammy http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-10766 Dr. Slammy Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:31:03 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/#comment-10766 Respect is critical, isn't it? You can't teach without the respect of your students, and there's no way in the hell they're going to respect you when it's clear that the school system, administrators and society in general don't. We pay a lot of lip service in this country to how much we revere teachers, but in too many places it's nothing but cheap talk. We're in trouble and we're going to stay that way until we get to the point where it's clear to anybody paying any attention at all that teachers and the educational process are revered in our society. Respect is critical, isn’t it? You can’t teach without the respect of your students, and there’s no way in the hell they’re going to respect you when it’s clear that the school system, administrators and society in general don’t.

We pay a lot of lip service in this country to how much we revere teachers, but in too many places it’s nothing but cheap talk. We’re in trouble and we’re going to stay that way until we get to the point where it’s clear to anybody paying any attention at all that teachers and the educational process are revered in our society.

]]> By: tictacgo http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-10765 tictacgo Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:24:29 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/#comment-10765 I agree with you 100%. As a former teaching assistant at a state university I saw the total paralysis of the system in dealing with this question. The mentality that students are clients/customers leads to educators being considered as little more than flight-attendants. Now I believe that teachers can only facilitate learning, but we can do so only if we receive the same level of respect that students are accorded. The pendulum has swing too far the other way and a balance needs to be found or else idiocracy looks increasingly like america's future. I agree with you 100%. As a former teaching assistant at a state university I saw the total paralysis of the system in dealing with this question. The mentality that students are clients/customers leads to educators being considered as little more than flight-attendants. Now I believe that teachers can only facilitate learning, but we can do so only if we receive the same level of respect that students are accorded. The pendulum has swing too far the other way and a balance needs to be found or else idiocracy looks increasingly like america’s future.

]]> By: Dr. Slammy http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-10757 Dr. Slammy Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:59:23 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/#comment-10757 Thanks. To my of thinking, if we sort out education, a lot of the other issues out there are going fix themselves, almost as if by magic. But America would have so much less to argue about - then where would we be? :) Thanks. To my of thinking, if we sort out education, a lot of the other issues out there are going fix themselves, almost as if by magic. But America would have so much less to argue about – then where would we be? :)

]]> By: jeff http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-10753 jeff Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:48:36 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2007/12/28/dr-slammy-in-2008-discipline-and-the-sanctity-of-the-learning-environment/#comment-10753 Dr. Slammy, I hereby endores you for the office of the President of the United States. Although I disagreee with you vehemently on most subjects, I admire your stand on education. For that reason, I am compelled to give my endorsement. None of the declared candidates in either party give me any reason to vote for them. Jeff Dr. Slammy,

I hereby endores you for the office of the President of the United States. Although I disagreee with you vehemently on most subjects, I admire your stand on education. For that reason, I am compelled to give my endorsement.

None of the declared candidates in either party give me any reason to vote for them.

Jeff

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