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		<title>By: Texas Medical</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Medical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to the article, Now there is more reason to comment than ever before! Everyone should participate. I am incorporating what your wrote to our project!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the article, Now there is more reason to comment than ever before! Everyone should participate. I am incorporating what your wrote to our project!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interesting thing about Trent Reznor&#039;s companion video to &quot;Broken&quot; is that he decided not to commercially release it saying that he didn&#039;t feel it was appropriate to publish it at the time.  I think he felt the visuals in the short would cause alot of negitive publicity and undermine what he was trying to do with his music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting thing about Trent Reznor&#8217;s companion video to &#8220;Broken&#8221; is that he decided not to commercially release it saying that he didn&#8217;t feel it was appropriate to publish it at the time.  I think he felt the visuals in the short would cause alot of negitive publicity and undermine what he was trying to do with his music.</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What would we do without murder?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What would we do without murder?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the early &#039;90s Nine Inch Nails released an EP called &lt;i&gt;Broken&lt;/i&gt;, which contained the MTV hit &quot;Wish.&quot; Trent Reznor released a companion video package that&#039;s one of the most horrific things I&#039;ve ever seen, especially the video for &quot;Gave Up,&quot; which seems intended as a comment on the Jeffrey Dahmer case.

I&#039;ve never seen an interview where Reznor talks about it, but what I think was going on was an attempt on his part to bypass our mediated experience of horror. Highly produced, stylized, and always at a remove thanks to the glass screen between us and the physical experience of sitting in your own living room or a theater surrounded by people. All these things have engendered an unreal relationship with horror - and this goes even for news reporting. Reznor eschewed professional looking production in favor of what looks like bad hand-held low-fi techniques, so the terror of what&#039;s happening in the basement comes off looking like something that might actually be &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt;.

I used this video in an undergrad media studies class when I was teaching at the University of Colorado. As we came to section on censorship I told my class that if we were going to discuss the topic we were going to get past the safety of the purely philosophical. The visceral impact turned even hardcore NIN fans green and incoming freshmen two years later were still hearing the stories about that class.

Maybe this was Reznor&#039;s twisted comment on the same thing that troubles Fierro. I don&#039;t know. But one thing is for sure - our nation&#039;s media audiences have an appetite for sanitized depictions of things that they have no real awareness about &lt;i&gt;at all&lt;/i&gt;. I suspect this is a bad thing.

If you&#039;d like to see the NIN video, &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=_zEz3UOrdzA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;click here&lt;/a&gt;. Just be forewarned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the early &#8217;90s Nine Inch Nails released an EP called <i>Broken</i>, which contained the MTV hit &#8220;Wish.&#8221; Trent Reznor released a companion video package that&#8217;s one of the most horrific things I&#8217;ve ever seen, especially the video for &#8220;Gave Up,&#8221; which seems intended as a comment on the Jeffrey Dahmer case.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen an interview where Reznor talks about it, but what I think was going on was an attempt on his part to bypass our mediated experience of horror. Highly produced, stylized, and always at a remove thanks to the glass screen between us and the physical experience of sitting in your own living room or a theater surrounded by people. All these things have engendered an unreal relationship with horror &#8211; and this goes even for news reporting. Reznor eschewed professional looking production in favor of what looks like bad hand-held low-fi techniques, so the terror of what&#8217;s happening in the basement comes off looking like something that might actually be <i>real</i>.</p>
<p>I used this video in an undergrad media studies class when I was teaching at the University of Colorado. As we came to section on censorship I told my class that if we were going to discuss the topic we were going to get past the safety of the purely philosophical. The visceral impact turned even hardcore NIN fans green and incoming freshmen two years later were still hearing the stories about that class.</p>
<p>Maybe this was Reznor&#8217;s twisted comment on the same thing that troubles Fierro. I don&#8217;t know. But one thing is for sure &#8211; our nation&#8217;s media audiences have an appetite for sanitized depictions of things that they have no real awareness about <i>at all</i>. I suspect this is a bad thing.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to see the NIN video, <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=_zEz3UOrdzA" rel="nofollow">click here</a>. Just be forewarned.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ,

This is a fascinating essay--one of the best you&#039;ve posted. 

One of the interesting things about the modern horror craze is how different nations and cultures interpret the desire to be shocked out of numbness. Whereas America seems to exhort gore, violence, and brutality, the Japanese horror wave emphasizes psychological terror and sheer &quot;mindfuckery&quot; as metaphor for a particular issue (i.e. &quot;Dark Water&quot; explored parental abandonment and child neglect through the spirit of a murderous preteen, for example). French directors have put out films that mix elements of the American and Japanese approaches, such as &quot;High Tension,&quot; which starts out like a typical slasher flick but ends up being more of a higher-level audience double cross. 

The media blackout on images of the war is no coincidence, of course--it&#039;s a calculated plan by the Pentagon and a complicit media to maintain support for a failed plan by denying people the ability to see what they need to see. They learned their lessons from Vietnam and even the first Gulf War, after all. But because people sense and are acutely aware of that void, they will look for anything to fill that gap--and torture porn is the result.

The odd and depressing need for humans to have catharsis through violence is as old as the Roman gladiatorial games--and just like the &quot;bread and circuses&quot; signaled the decline of that empire, so too may our love for extreme violence signify ours. Of course, I&#039;d rather have people get that rush from watching an action film than going out and shooting someone. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ,</p>
<p>This is a fascinating essay&#8211;one of the best you&#8217;ve posted. </p>
<p>One of the interesting things about the modern horror craze is how different nations and cultures interpret the desire to be shocked out of numbness. Whereas America seems to exhort gore, violence, and brutality, the Japanese horror wave emphasizes psychological terror and sheer &#8220;mindfuckery&#8221; as metaphor for a particular issue (i.e. &#8220;Dark Water&#8221; explored parental abandonment and child neglect through the spirit of a murderous preteen, for example). French directors have put out films that mix elements of the American and Japanese approaches, such as &#8220;High Tension,&#8221; which starts out like a typical slasher flick but ends up being more of a higher-level audience double cross. </p>
<p>The media blackout on images of the war is no coincidence, of course&#8211;it&#8217;s a calculated plan by the Pentagon and a complicit media to maintain support for a failed plan by denying people the ability to see what they need to see. They learned their lessons from Vietnam and even the first Gulf War, after all. But because people sense and are acutely aware of that void, they will look for anything to fill that gap&#8211;and torture porn is the result.</p>
<p>The odd and depressing need for humans to have catharsis through violence is as old as the Roman gladiatorial games&#8211;and just like the &#8220;bread and circuses&#8221; signaled the decline of that empire, so too may our love for extreme violence signify ours. Of course, I&#8217;d rather have people get that rush from watching an action film than going out and shooting someone. <img src='http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Peter Gutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting perspective, especially for some one like me who deals with horror films all the time.  What Poland may have dismissed at the time is the ending of Hostel 2 -- a stretch to call it feminist but hardly misogynistic.  The point, though, is that the &quot;moral&quot; victory of the &quot;good guys&quot; at the end of each Hostel film allows the audience to experience the cathartic effect more fully, and with less guilt.  Catharsis has been around since Greek tragedy and folks like Ulaby don&#039;t need it in this form any more than real martial artists get the same &quot;high&quot; from a kung fu film that other viewers might--they&#039;re busy doing the real thing and the target audience for these films is &quot;the rest of us.&quot;  There&#039;s no good and bad, right and wrong here unless we impose it.  In fact, it&#039;s dangerous when pop culture analysis doesn&#039;t make the distinction with the real world--then we&#039;re conflating the two just like the real psychos who go on shooting sprees &quot;inspired&quot; by movies and video games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting perspective, especially for some one like me who deals with horror films all the time.  What Poland may have dismissed at the time is the ending of Hostel 2 &#8212; a stretch to call it feminist but hardly misogynistic.  The point, though, is that the &#8220;moral&#8221; victory of the &#8220;good guys&#8221; at the end of each Hostel film allows the audience to experience the cathartic effect more fully, and with less guilt.  Catharsis has been around since Greek tragedy and folks like Ulaby don&#8217;t need it in this form any more than real martial artists get the same &#8220;high&#8221; from a kung fu film that other viewers might&#8211;they&#8217;re busy doing the real thing and the target audience for these films is &#8220;the rest of us.&#8221;  There&#8217;s no good and bad, right and wrong here unless we impose it.  In fact, it&#8217;s dangerous when pop culture analysis doesn&#8217;t make the distinction with the real world&#8211;then we&#8217;re conflating the two just like the real psychos who go on shooting sprees &#8220;inspired&#8221; by movies and video games.</p>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Star medical examiner&#039;s compassion a lesson to splatter film fans...&lt;/strong&gt;

Dr. Fierro&#039;s compassion shines like a beacon. Especially at a time when we Americans expend a huge amount of psychic BTUs fueling the firewall between our psyches and the havoc our government is wreaking in our names....</description>
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<p>Dr. Fierro&#8217;s compassion shines like a beacon. Especially at a time when we Americans expend a huge amount of psychic BTUs fueling the firewall between our psyches and the havoc our government is wreaking in our names&#8230;.</p>
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