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	<title>Comments on: 2005 Colorado public education survey not statistically valid</title>
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	<description>Think.  It ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/02/22/2005-colorado-public-education-survey-not-statistically-valid/comment-page-1/#comment-17794</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair point.  But you can&#039;t ensure that it was representative with a self-selected process.

One superintendent might see the survey as a means to getting more money for a new school and so adjust his answers somewhat.  Another might be so busy fixing all the actual problems that she couldn&#039;t find the time to fill the survey out.  And so on.   Weighting takes care of some of the issues (rural vs. urban, for example), but it&#039;s not enough to compensate for the self-selection bias.

When you survey all the districts, as the state legislature and governor can, then you know your data is applicable across the entire state.  It appears that&#039;s what&#039;s happening now, partly as a result of this survey, and that&#039;s a great thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair point.  But you can&#8217;t ensure that it was representative with a self-selected process.</p>
<p>One superintendent might see the survey as a means to getting more money for a new school and so adjust his answers somewhat.  Another might be so busy fixing all the actual problems that she couldn&#8217;t find the time to fill the survey out.  And so on.   Weighting takes care of some of the issues (rural vs. urban, for example), but it&#8217;s not enough to compensate for the self-selection bias.</p>
<p>When you survey all the districts, as the state legislature and governor can, then you know your data is applicable across the entire state.  It appears that&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening now, partly as a result of this survey, and that&#8217;s a great thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Statistical surveys require random samples in order to accurately estimate an entire population from a small sample...&lt;/i&gt;

This isn&#039;t technically accurate. What is required is a &lt;i&gt;representative&lt;/i&gt; sample, and randomness is a common way of assuring representativeness. That is, randomness is the means, not the ends.

So the argument becomes whether or not the sample was representative, not whether it was random, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Statistical surveys require random samples in order to accurately estimate an entire population from a small sample&#8230;</i></p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t technically accurate. What is required is a <i>representative</i> sample, and randomness is a common way of assuring representativeness. That is, randomness is the means, not the ends.</p>
<p>So the argument becomes whether or not the sample was representative, not whether it was random, right?</p>
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