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	<title>Comments on: Nader reaction defines difference between Obama, Clinton</title>
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		<title>By: Let&#8217;s Import Ralph Nader &#171; From My Bottom Step</title>
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		<dc:creator>Let&#8217;s Import Ralph Nader &#171; From My Bottom Step</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Sheehan</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/02/24/army-of-whiners-rises-again-to-fight-nader/comment-page-2/#comment-20679</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sheehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;â€™d love for us to live in a true multi-party system. Recognizing that we donâ€™t, making peace with that, and learning to work within it to make a difference is part of reaching intellectual adulthood.&quot;

No, it&#039;s part of reaching the rock bottom of intellectual abdication.  You want Americans to give in to the status quo.  Did you lecture voters who chose Perot in &#039;92 with this same insulting nonsense?  I highly doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;â€™d love for us to live in a true multi-party system. Recognizing that we donâ€™t, making peace with that, and learning to work within it to make a difference is part of reaching intellectual adulthood.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s part of reaching the rock bottom of intellectual abdication.  You want Americans to give in to the status quo.  Did you lecture voters who chose Perot in &#8216;92 with this same insulting nonsense?  I highly doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/02/24/army-of-whiners-rises-again-to-fight-nader/comment-page-2/#comment-19955</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, the problem with your argument is that Gore lost by a relatively small number of votes.  Ralph Nader had considerably more votes than Gore lost by.  Yes, a number of Democrats voted for Bush.  That does not somehow equate to cleansing Nader voters.  By throwing away the vote on a third-party candidate with no chance of winning, the election was effectively handed to Bush.  The fact that some registered Democrats crossed party lines, or that some other spoilers existed (as referenced in comment 56) does not somehow absolve Nader voters.  It simply means that a number of people deserve blame for the Bush presidency.  Among those deserving such blame are a hostile national media, an easily influenced moderate voting bloc, and &lt;b&gt;people who voted for Ralph Nader&lt;/b&gt;.  

Blame is due to all of those people and organizations. &lt;b&gt;You hold some of the responsibility for the Bush Presidency&lt;/b&gt;.  Pointing fingers at the other people who hold the same responsibility is the pot calling the kettle black.  The responsible, adult action to take in our political culture is to decide which candidate from the two major parties better represents your views, and then cast your vote for them.  Is it unfortunate that we only have two options with a limited degree of difference between them?  Of course it is.  I&#039;d love for us to live in a true multi-party system.  Recognizing that we don&#039;t, making peace with that, and learning to work within it to make a difference is part of reaching intellectual adulthood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, the problem with your argument is that Gore lost by a relatively small number of votes.  Ralph Nader had considerably more votes than Gore lost by.  Yes, a number of Democrats voted for Bush.  That does not somehow equate to cleansing Nader voters.  By throwing away the vote on a third-party candidate with no chance of winning, the election was effectively handed to Bush.  The fact that some registered Democrats crossed party lines, or that some other spoilers existed (as referenced in comment 56) does not somehow absolve Nader voters.  It simply means that a number of people deserve blame for the Bush presidency.  Among those deserving such blame are a hostile national media, an easily influenced moderate voting bloc, and <b>people who voted for Ralph Nader</b>.  </p>
<p>Blame is due to all of those people and organizations. <b>You hold some of the responsibility for the Bush Presidency</b>.  Pointing fingers at the other people who hold the same responsibility is the pot calling the kettle black.  The responsible, adult action to take in our political culture is to decide which candidate from the two major parties better represents your views, and then cast your vote for them.  Is it unfortunate that we only have two options with a limited degree of difference between them?  Of course it is.  I&#8217;d love for us to live in a true multi-party system.  Recognizing that we don&#8217;t, making peace with that, and learning to work within it to make a difference is part of reaching intellectual adulthood.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnymac</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnnymac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 05:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are five hundred thousand reasons you can&#039;t blame nader for gore losing the election and they all live in Dc 
Someone should remind those people thier votes don&#039;t count for anything and just swell the totals 
i mean geez</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are five hundred thousand reasons you can&#8217;t blame nader for gore losing the election and they all live in Dc<br />
Someone should remind those people thier votes don&#8217;t count for anything and just swell the totals<br />
i mean geez</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sheehan</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/02/24/army-of-whiners-rises-again-to-fight-nader/comment-page-2/#comment-19078</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sheehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, do me a little favor.  Scroll to the top of my blog.  Read the title of it.  It&#039;s Scholars &amp; Rogues.  Not Scholars &amp; Simps, Scholars &amp; Saps, or Scholars &amp; Chickens.  If you can&#039;t handle that, if you want to ridiculously call me immature while you share with everyone your schoolgirl crush on someone so maturely named &quot;Trippin,&quot; while neither of you acknowledge the facts I put before you about how Democrats themselves were responsible for Al Gore&#039;s loss in 2000 and not Nader or his voters, then maybe you ought to go back to the safe blog playground with the other kids.

&quot;when you say things like â€œthanks for playingâ€ rather than providing thoughtful responses to reasonable criticisms, you make things so much less interesting. If I wanted that type of attitude, I could just turn on Bill Oâ€™Reilly.&quot;

Well, if self-appointed arbiters of taste and goodness like yourself would actually READ my responses and acknowledge the facts I present rather than pontificate about offhand remarks I make to borderline trolls, you might rethink your judgmentalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, do me a little favor.  Scroll to the top of my blog.  Read the title of it.  It&#8217;s Scholars &#038; Rogues.  Not Scholars &#038; Simps, Scholars &#038; Saps, or Scholars &#038; Chickens.  If you can&#8217;t handle that, if you want to ridiculously call me immature while you share with everyone your schoolgirl crush on someone so maturely named &#8220;Trippin,&#8221; while neither of you acknowledge the facts I put before you about how Democrats themselves were responsible for Al Gore&#8217;s loss in 2000 and not Nader or his voters, then maybe you ought to go back to the safe blog playground with the other kids.</p>
<p>&#8220;when you say things like â€œthanks for playingâ€ rather than providing thoughtful responses to reasonable criticisms, you make things so much less interesting. If I wanted that type of attitude, I could just turn on Bill Oâ€™Reilly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, if self-appointed arbiters of taste and goodness like yourself would actually READ my responses and acknowledge the facts I present rather than pontificate about offhand remarks I make to borderline trolls, you might rethink your judgmentalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/02/24/army-of-whiners-rises-again-to-fight-nader/comment-page-2/#comment-19049</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trippin, do you have a blog?  This is my first time reading this blog, and you have been by far the most insightful and reasonable person on here.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll be back reading Mike Sheehan, but I would read yours, if you have one.

Mike, I thought your initial article wasn&#039;t so bad, but the way you respond to commenters is immature and lowers the quality of the debate.  I normally enjoy it when writers respond to commenters, but when you say things like &quot;thanks for playing&quot; rather than providing thoughtful responses to reasonable criticisms, you make things so much less interesting.  If I wanted that type of attitude, I could just turn on Bill O&#039;Reilly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trippin, do you have a blog?  This is my first time reading this blog, and you have been by far the most insightful and reasonable person on here.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll be back reading Mike Sheehan, but I would read yours, if you have one.</p>
<p>Mike, I thought your initial article wasn&#8217;t so bad, but the way you respond to commenters is immature and lowers the quality of the debate.  I normally enjoy it when writers respond to commenters, but when you say things like &#8220;thanks for playing&#8221; rather than providing thoughtful responses to reasonable criticisms, you make things so much less interesting.  If I wanted that type of attitude, I could just turn on Bill O&#8217;Reilly.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/02/24/army-of-whiners-rises-again-to-fight-nader/comment-page-2/#comment-18910</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish that, instead of trying to run, Nader would remain in private sector and join forces with the Edwards&#039;s on their new venture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish that, instead of trying to run, Nader would remain in private sector and join forces with the Edwards&#8217;s on their new venture.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/02/24/army-of-whiners-rises-again-to-fight-nader/comment-page-2/#comment-18856</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Doesnâ€™t sound like Sen. Obama is a big Nader fan.&quot;
Well, he showed some admiration for Nader&#039;s work for the consumers, but, of course, Obama is a political pro and the uncompromising stance of Nader, which effectively prohibits him from influencing real politics, must look to Obama as dangerously naive. Imho this shows in his reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Doesnâ€™t sound like Sen. Obama is a big Nader fan.&#8221;<br />
Well, he showed some admiration for Nader&#8217;s work for the consumers, but, of course, Obama is a political pro and the uncompromising stance of Nader, which effectively prohibits him from influencing real politics, must look to Obama as dangerously naive. Imho this shows in his reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: micky devine</title>
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		<dc:creator>micky devine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Guess which one gets it, and which one has taken command of the doomed and disgruntled Army of Whiners?&quot;

I don&#039;t know. Maybe it was the person who said this &quot;Mr. Nader is somebody who, if you don&#039;t listen and adopt all of his policies, thinks you&#039;re not substantive. He seems to have a pretty high opinion of his own work.&quot; Doesn&#039;t sound like Sen. Obama is a big Nader fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Guess which one gets it, and which one has taken command of the doomed and disgruntled Army of Whiners?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know. Maybe it was the person who said this &#8220;Mr. Nader is somebody who, if you don&#8217;t listen and adopt all of his policies, thinks you&#8217;re not substantive. He seems to have a pretty high opinion of his own work.&#8221; Doesn&#8217;t sound like Sen. Obama is a big Nader fan.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/02/24/army-of-whiners-rises-again-to-fight-nader/comment-page-2/#comment-18820</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That wasnâ€™t very nice to wish bad things to happen to other people. Karma is a bitch.&quot;
Yup, you&#039;re right, Jeff. I became annoyed because the Nader voters of 2000 still don&#039;t see that their irrational decision brought trouble to the whole world. Sry.

&quot;Try working for Nader and see how compassionate and inspiring he is!&quot;
Just like Edwards. So, what? Voting for Nader still doesn&#039;t make any sense, tfz.

&quot;250,000 Democrats voted for Bush in Florida in 2000.&quot;
Don&#039;t you see your double standard, Mike? You point to those Dems, but at the same time you say folks like you who voted for Nader did  nothing wrong? The awful truth is, every vote that didn&#039;t go to Gore was more or less a vote for the horrible Bush presidency. And it&#039;s not as if it hadn&#039;t been clear who was the better candidate, from a liberal point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That wasnâ€™t very nice to wish bad things to happen to other people. Karma is a bitch.&#8221;<br />
Yup, you&#8217;re right, Jeff. I became annoyed because the Nader voters of 2000 still don&#8217;t see that their irrational decision brought trouble to the whole world. Sry.</p>
<p>&#8220;Try working for Nader and see how compassionate and inspiring he is!&#8221;<br />
Just like Edwards. So, what? Voting for Nader still doesn&#8217;t make any sense, tfz.</p>
<p>&#8220;250,000 Democrats voted for Bush in Florida in 2000.&#8221;<br />
Don&#8217;t you see your double standard, Mike? You point to those Dems, but at the same time you say folks like you who voted for Nader did  nothing wrong? The awful truth is, every vote that didn&#8217;t go to Gore was more or less a vote for the horrible Bush presidency. And it&#8217;s not as if it hadn&#8217;t been clear who was the better candidate, from a liberal point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Balck</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/02/24/army-of-whiners-rises-again-to-fight-nader/comment-page-2/#comment-18785</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Balck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those who hate the war and blame Nader:  I hope you stopped paying your taxes.  It is your tax dollars that make the killing possible.
   This is a way to protest that has some personal risk and REALLY puts your money where your mouth is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who hate the war and blame Nader:  I hope you stopped paying your taxes.  It is your tax dollars that make the killing possible.<br />
   This is a way to protest that has some personal risk and REALLY puts your money where your mouth is.</p>
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		<title>By: nasrudin</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasrudin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If youâ€™re going to say Nader cost Gore a win in Florida, you might have to say the same thing about any of a list of lesser-known possible spoilers. David McReynolds, the Socialist candidate in 2000, got 622 votes in Florida. Give â€™em to Gore and heâ€™d have won regardless of Nader. Or give Gore the lionâ€™s share of the Libertarian, Constitution Party or Natural Law Party vote in Florida, and get there that way.&quot;
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenumbers/2008/02/spoilage.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If youâ€™re going to say Nader cost Gore a win in Florida, you might have to say the same thing about any of a list of lesser-known possible spoilers. David McReynolds, the Socialist candidate in 2000, got 622 votes in Florida. Give â€™em to Gore and heâ€™d have won regardless of Nader. Or give Gore the lionâ€™s share of the Libertarian, Constitution Party or Natural Law Party vote in Florida, and get there that way.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenumbers/2008/02/spoilage.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenumbers/2008/02/spoilage.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: DebMo</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/02/24/army-of-whiners-rises-again-to-fight-nader/comment-page-2/#comment-18769</link>
		<dc:creator>DebMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only polls taken of Nader supporters was done by the Nader campaign.

And,like my informal survey of  all the conservatives around me in Missouri, Nader&#039;s appeal crosses the political spectrum.

Many are just now realizing that the pocketbook issues of populism strongly appeal to working class people of all political persuasions.

Nader was the first in recent history to remind us of that.  

It seems to be a lesson that has had to be relearned over and over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only polls taken of Nader supporters was done by the Nader campaign.</p>
<p>And,like my informal survey of  all the conservatives around me in Missouri, Nader&#8217;s appeal crosses the political spectrum.</p>
<p>Many are just now realizing that the pocketbook issues of populism strongly appeal to working class people of all political persuasions.</p>
<p>Nader was the first in recent history to remind us of that.  </p>
<p>It seems to be a lesson that has had to be relearned over and over.</p>
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		<title>By: no way jose</title>
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		<dc:creator>no way jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its simple arithmatic.  Gore supposedly lost by a few hundred votes in Florida.  Not counting the dirty shenanigans by Republicans to discount votes, still had Nader not run, Gore would have made up the difference.  Nader gave us 8 years of Bush hell.  The kicker is, he&#039;s such a spiteful bastard that he did it again in 04 and now in 08.  I used to have respect for him but no more.  The guy is a greedy (he gets to keep all those campaign contributions you know, just like Ron Paul - gee, is that why they&#039;re running?), selfish (caring more about spiteing the Democrats then the best interests of the country), egotistical jerk.  His claim to fame is seat belts - yea!  He&#039;s been milking it ever since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its simple arithmatic.  Gore supposedly lost by a few hundred votes in Florida.  Not counting the dirty shenanigans by Republicans to discount votes, still had Nader not run, Gore would have made up the difference.  Nader gave us 8 years of Bush hell.  The kicker is, he&#8217;s such a spiteful bastard that he did it again in 04 and now in 08.  I used to have respect for him but no more.  The guy is a greedy (he gets to keep all those campaign contributions you know, just like Ron Paul &#8211; gee, is that why they&#8217;re running?), selfish (caring more about spiteing the Democrats then the best interests of the country), egotistical jerk.  His claim to fame is seat belts &#8211; yea!  He&#8217;s been milking it ever since.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your points about Gore&#039;s compromised candidacy in 2000 are what I have told any Democratic friend who starts whining about Nader.  It&#039;s like the protestation of the philanderer who tells the husband, when he is caught with the man&#039;s wife-if you were making her happy, I wouldn&#039;t be here.  If the Dems had ANY kind of candidates, Ralph would quite happily devote himself to other things.  This is an instance of Ralph appealing to the Democratic wing of the Democratic party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your points about Gore&#8217;s compromised candidacy in 2000 are what I have told any Democratic friend who starts whining about Nader.  It&#8217;s like the protestation of the philanderer who tells the husband, when he is caught with the man&#8217;s wife-if you were making her happy, I wouldn&#8217;t be here.  If the Dems had ANY kind of candidates, Ralph would quite happily devote himself to other things.  This is an instance of Ralph appealing to the Democratic wing of the Democratic party.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sheehan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Sheehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The author doesnâ€™t have clue.&quot;

250,000 Democrats voted for Bush in Florida in 2000.  Factor that.  Your party screwed you, Nader didn&#039;t.  But keep on grasping at straws there and living in the past, the rest of us are moving on.  And please, re-read what Obama said about Nader&#039;s entry into the race. He gets it. You don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The author doesnâ€™t have clue.&#8221;</p>
<p>250,000 Democrats voted for Bush in Florida in 2000.  Factor that.  Your party screwed you, Nader didn&#8217;t.  But keep on grasping at straws there and living in the past, the rest of us are moving on.  And please, re-read what Obama said about Nader&#8217;s entry into the race. He gets it. You don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: mks</title>
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		<dc:creator>mks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author doesn&#039;t have clue.  Of course Nader was a factor in the 2000 election.  His supporter base was clearly democratic.  In Florida, he represented thousands of votes, and Gore only lost by 500 or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author doesn&#8217;t have clue.  Of course Nader was a factor in the 2000 election.  His supporter base was clearly democratic.  In Florida, he represented thousands of votes, and Gore only lost by 500 or so.</p>
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		<title>By: tv free zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>tv free zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try working for Nader and see how compassionate and inspiring he is! And yeah, how MUCH cash did he get for drawing votes away from Gore? He lives in or near Washington, D.C., which means he must be seriously on the take, like everyone else. The one thing Gore did that really knocked him down was his refusal to embrace Clinton as his one time friend and  president. Gore has as much baggage in D.C. as anyone else. No, YOU look it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try working for Nader and see how compassionate and inspiring he is! And yeah, how MUCH cash did he get for drawing votes away from Gore? He lives in or near Washington, D.C., which means he must be seriously on the take, like everyone else. The one thing Gore did that really knocked him down was his refusal to embrace Clinton as his one time friend and  president. Gore has as much baggage in D.C. as anyone else. No, YOU look it up.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gray said:
&quot;I hope 7 years of Bush â€œleadershipâ€ did hurt you economically and politically. This deserves you right for your stupidity.&quot;

That wasn&#039;t very nice to wish bad things to happen to other people.  Karma is a bitch.

Although I disagree with 85% of the content of this blog, I would never dream of wishing ill to anyone, even of the folks who slammed me at every turn.  Even though the philosophies of this group are of diametric opposition to my core values, I respect each and every person associated with this site.  Their approaches  differ with mine, but they&#039;re all patriotic Americans that want the best for this great country(as misguided as I might  find them).  Different opinions.....as well as they&#039;re well thought out, logical, and rational are something I respect and will heartily debate.  I don&#039;t respect wishing anyone bad fortune as it&#039;s just plain bad manners.


Jeff


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray said:<br />
&#8220;I hope 7 years of Bush â€œleadershipâ€ did hurt you economically and politically. This deserves you right for your stupidity.&#8221;</p>
<p>That wasn&#8217;t very nice to wish bad things to happen to other people.  Karma is a bitch.</p>
<p>Although I disagree with 85% of the content of this blog, I would never dream of wishing ill to anyone, even of the folks who slammed me at every turn.  Even though the philosophies of this group are of diametric opposition to my core values, I respect each and every person associated with this site.  Their approaches  differ with mine, but they&#8217;re all patriotic Americans that want the best for this great country(as misguided as I might  find them).  Different opinions&#8230;..as well as they&#8217;re well thought out, logical, and rational are something I respect and will heartily debate.  I don&#8217;t respect wishing anyone bad fortune as it&#8217;s just plain bad manners.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;point to polls which sample a thousand or so at most&quot;
I also recommend reading some stuff about the theory behind polls.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;point to polls which sample a thousand or so at most&#8221;<br />
I also recommend reading some stuff about the theory behind polls.<br />
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