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	<description>Think - it ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: Black Dog Strategic</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/03/21/privacy-vs-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-39897</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Dog Strategic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In more ways that my brain can quite imagine right now, this system will integrate with the Minority Report scenario outlined here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Airport security and the fast lane to hell</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/03/21/privacy-vs-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-28571</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Airport security and the fast lane to hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] really isn&#8217;t the worst of it, by far. The fact is that this system not only asks us to trade privacy for convenience, it also opens the door to potential security breaches. I&#8217;m no expert on the subject, but [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] really isn&#8217;t the worst of it, by far. The fact is that this system not only asks us to trade privacy for convenience, it also opens the door to potential security breaches. I&#8217;m no expert on the subject, but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom The Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/03/21/privacy-vs-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-27091</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom The Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right.&quot;

You say that what is going on in the area of vast amounts of individual private data in the hands of these big companies is not like Frankenstein, however I disagree strongly.  The mad scientists (now fully enabled by huge corporations) have already taken our personhood, our identity, and our humanity away for their private profit.  They continue to degrade us in new ways every day.  Remember, this is not a democracy.  We do not get to vote on any of these things.  We did not get to vote that a secret, privately controlled and generated number controls our ability to get credit, jobs or a home.  But that is what your â€˜credit scoreâ€™ is, for example.  The FBI, NSA and others can listen in on any of your conversations 24/7, if you have a cell phoneâ€”and track you, too.  Did you get to vote on the cell phone companies giving your tracking info to who knows who?  The national ID system is just about ready, too.

â€œSocial networkingâ€ is nothing but the latest in a long line of  sales gimmicks masquerading as â€˜a positive vision of the futureâ€™ to trick stupid consumers . It is a euphuism for technologically based corporate fascism, aided and abetted by a supine and craven government completely out of touch with reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right.&#8221;</p>
<p>You say that what is going on in the area of vast amounts of individual private data in the hands of these big companies is not like Frankenstein, however I disagree strongly.  The mad scientists (now fully enabled by huge corporations) have already taken our personhood, our identity, and our humanity away for their private profit.  They continue to degrade us in new ways every day.  Remember, this is not a democracy.  We do not get to vote on any of these things.  We did not get to vote that a secret, privately controlled and generated number controls our ability to get credit, jobs or a home.  But that is what your â€˜credit scoreâ€™ is, for example.  The FBI, NSA and others can listen in on any of your conversations 24/7, if you have a cell phoneâ€”and track you, too.  Did you get to vote on the cell phone companies giving your tracking info to who knows who?  The national ID system is just about ready, too.</p>
<p>â€œSocial networkingâ€ is nothing but the latest in a long line of  sales gimmicks masquerading as â€˜a positive vision of the futureâ€™ to trick stupid consumers . It is a euphuism for technologically based corporate fascism, aided and abetted by a supine and craven government completely out of touch with reality.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/03/21/privacy-vs-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-26970</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not mentioned in this article are the massive datasets which are being assembled by 
various companies in exchange for &quot;discounts&quot;.  In particular, I&#039;m thinking of the various grocery store &quot;Club&quot; cards.

Of course, the various supermarket conglomerates promise, promise, promise that they would NEVER share your private data with ANYbody. . . they&#039;re just using it internally, to &quot;enhance your shopping experience&quot; by providing you with targeted marketing, right?
It&#039;s completely inconceivable that they might be selling the information they collect to, say, health insurance providers, right?   (&quot;Hmm. . . we&#039;re not going to cover the costs of your recent heart attack--just look at the amount of butter and red meat you&#039;ve purchased over the past ten years!&quot;).

Or perhaps your auto insurance provider?  (&quot;Based upon the amount of wine you purchase on a regular basis, we consider you at increased risk for drunken driving, and are increasing your premium accordingly.&quot;)  Or maybe your employer?

There&#039;s no free lunch.  If the grocery stores are offering you a discount, it&#039;s because somebody is willing to pay them big bucks for the information you willingly surrender.  And promises of confidentiality are meaningless in a world where accidental security breaches are disturbingly commonplace--for the right price, &quot;accidents&quot; are easily arranged.

I&#039;m not a conspiracy theory kind of person; I&#039;d really like to believe that my refusal to accept the wonderful discounts being offered to me verges on the paranoid.
But given the amazing and worrisome growth in datamining capabilities, both private and governmental, paranoia seems the pragmatic option here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not mentioned in this article are the massive datasets which are being assembled by<br />
various companies in exchange for &#8220;discounts&#8221;.  In particular, I&#8217;m thinking of the various grocery store &#8220;Club&#8221; cards.</p>
<p>Of course, the various supermarket conglomerates promise, promise, promise that they would NEVER share your private data with ANYbody. . . they&#8217;re just using it internally, to &#8220;enhance your shopping experience&#8221; by providing you with targeted marketing, right?<br />
It&#8217;s completely inconceivable that they might be selling the information they collect to, say, health insurance providers, right?   (&#8221;Hmm. . . we&#8217;re not going to cover the costs of your recent heart attack&#8211;just look at the amount of butter and red meat you&#8217;ve purchased over the past ten years!&#8221;).</p>
<p>Or perhaps your auto insurance provider?  (&#8221;Based upon the amount of wine you purchase on a regular basis, we consider you at increased risk for drunken driving, and are increasing your premium accordingly.&#8221;)  Or maybe your employer?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no free lunch.  If the grocery stores are offering you a discount, it&#8217;s because somebody is willing to pay them big bucks for the information you willingly surrender.  And promises of confidentiality are meaningless in a world where accidental security breaches are disturbingly commonplace&#8211;for the right price, &#8220;accidents&#8221; are easily arranged.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a conspiracy theory kind of person; I&#8217;d really like to believe that my refusal to accept the wonderful discounts being offered to me verges on the paranoid.<br />
But given the amazing and worrisome growth in datamining capabilities, both private and governmental, paranoia seems the pragmatic option here.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael "Ubertramp" Pecaut</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/03/21/privacy-vs-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-26961</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael "Ubertramp" Pecaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook bugs me, too.  I killed my Facebook page a couple of months ago and, I thought, erased all the information from the page.  When I logged back in a couple of weeks ago, everything was still there, including pictures and a list of books I&#039;ve read recently.  I can&#039;t say I&#039;m terribly thrilled about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook bugs me, too.  I killed my Facebook page a couple of months ago and, I thought, erased all the information from the page.  When I logged back in a couple of weeks ago, everything was still there, including pictures and a list of books I&#8217;ve read recently.  I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m terribly thrilled about that.</p>
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		<title>By: A Little Learning &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Web 3.0</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/03/21/privacy-vs-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-26960</link>
		<dc:creator>A Little Learning &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Web 3.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here &#8212; and note &#8220;the &#8216;How to permanently delete your Facebook account group&#8217; &#8230; currently has 14, 407 members.&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Muffy</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/03/21/privacy-vs-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-26947</link>
		<dc:creator>Muffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Brodsky should take a good look at the NY Department of Motor Vehicles if he is looking for an example of personal information being sold to the highest bidder. They have been doing it long before the internet even thought of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Brodsky should take a good look at the NY Department of Motor Vehicles if he is looking for an example of personal information being sold to the highest bidder. They have been doing it long before the internet even thought of it.</p>
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		<title>By: www.buzzflash.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.buzzflash.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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