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	<title>Comments on: The J Street Project, or &#8220;Yes, Virginia, you can be pro-Israel and progressive&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Think - it ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: Energy Smarting J Street? &#171; Energy Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Energy Smarting J Street? &#171; Energy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Â PS:Â  J-Street is getting some attention. See, for example, this thoughtful post at Scholars and Rogues. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Â PS:Â  J-Street is getting some attention. See, for example, this thoughtful post at Scholars and Rogues. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll echo JSO with a quote from &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=12701&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jim Lobe&lt;/A&gt;&#039;s piece on the subject:
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&quot;There is no way that Israel as a Sparta is going to be in the interests of the Israeli or American people,&quot; noted Sam Lewis, a former U.S. ambassador to Israel who helped negotiate the 1978 Camp David Accords with Egypt under the Jimmy Carter administration.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; 
I like their name -- instead of K Street (boulevard of the lobbyists), J for Jewish, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll echo JSO with a quote from <a HREF="http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=12701" rel="nofollow">Jim Lobe</a>&#8217;s piece on the subject:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;There is no way that Israel as a Sparta is going to be in the interests of the Israeli or American people,&#8221; noted Sam Lewis, a former U.S. ambassador to Israel who helped negotiate the 1978 Camp David Accords with Egypt under the Jimmy Carter administration.</p></blockquote>
<p>I like their name &#8212; instead of K Street (boulevard of the lobbyists), J for Jewish, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto, Martin. Well done. Another of your &quot;Gee, I didn&#039;t know that&quot; pieces. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto, Martin. Well done. Another of your &#8220;Gee, I didn&#8217;t know that&#8221; pieces. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: JS O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good piece, Martin.  I&#039;m surprised you haven&#039;t gotten more comments.  Maybe it&#039;s because the subject is so controversial and even a hint that the Israeli government isn&#039;t the soul of perfection from a goy like me can lead to charges of antisemitism.  I&#039;ve often wondered about that.  How is it that critiicism of a country&#039;s policy can lead to a general charge of prejudice against an entire group that happens to live in that country?

Anyway, those who know me well have heard me say more than once that a state that is in a perpetual war will eventually lose.  That&#039;s just the odds.  Long-term survival depends on having neighbors who don&#039;t want to kill you.  The right-wing in Israel will never be convinced, because they feel it&#039;s a sacrilege to give up one square meter of land granted them by Yahweh.  

Ultimately, I think Israel can make this work, but only by withdrawing settlers from the West Bank and giving it to the Palestinians as a homeland.  How they will do that, when it seems that many of the governments there insist on actually building new Israeli housing in the West Bank, it a mystery to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good piece, Martin.  I&#8217;m surprised you haven&#8217;t gotten more comments.  Maybe it&#8217;s because the subject is so controversial and even a hint that the Israeli government isn&#8217;t the soul of perfection from a goy like me can lead to charges of antisemitism.  I&#8217;ve often wondered about that.  How is it that critiicism of a country&#8217;s policy can lead to a general charge of prejudice against an entire group that happens to live in that country?</p>
<p>Anyway, those who know me well have heard me say more than once that a state that is in a perpetual war will eventually lose.  That&#8217;s just the odds.  Long-term survival depends on having neighbors who don&#8217;t want to kill you.  The right-wing in Israel will never be convinced, because they feel it&#8217;s a sacrilege to give up one square meter of land granted them by Yahweh.  </p>
<p>Ultimately, I think Israel can make this work, but only by withdrawing settlers from the West Bank and giving it to the Palestinians as a homeland.  How they will do that, when it seems that many of the governments there insist on actually building new Israeli housing in the West Bank, it a mystery to me.</p>
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		<title>By: www.buzzflash.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.buzzflash.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The J Street Project, or â€œYes, Virginia, you can be pro-Israel and progressiveâ€...&lt;/strong&gt;

After sixty years of letting right-wing neocons and evangelicals dominate discussion on Israel, a new group of progressive Jews are aiming to reframe the debate towards a better way of thinking....</description>
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<p>After sixty years of letting right-wing neocons and evangelicals dominate discussion on Israel, a new group of progressive Jews are aiming to reframe the debate towards a better way of thinking&#8230;.</p>
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