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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Blame game sabotages highway trust fund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Blame game sabotages highway trust fund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Transportation. • I-35W bridge and the nation’s infrastructure: Little has changed. • Pols fail to comprehend breadth of infrastructure crisis. • Bad highways? Blame politics, technology, new driving habits. • Bad bridges? Still far too [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Transportation. • I-35W bridge and the nation’s infrastructure: Little has changed. • Pols fail to comprehend breadth of infrastructure crisis. • Bad highways? Blame politics, technology, new driving habits. • Bad bridges? Still far too [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Who&#8217;s gonna run the government? Tell us, please. Now.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Who&#8217;s gonna run the government? Tell us, please. Now.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] safety in the air, on land and over the water? &#8216;Cause you know, of course, that the nation&#8217;s infrastructure is screwed up beyond belief. Who&#8217;s gonna fix it for you? And are you gonna keep on selling off interstate highways and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] safety in the air, on land and over the water? &#8216;Cause you know, of course, that the nation&#8217;s infrastructure is screwed up beyond belief. Who&#8217;s gonna fix it for you? And are you gonna keep on selling off interstate highways and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amounts spent on the 2008 campaign in retrospect and review reveals that Americans will sing and dance while Rome burns - given the crisis in its infrastructures and transportation and security systems.

In an earlier day, or era, more rational minds would have prevailed - and priorities assigned by judgments of what is important to Americans for an American future and for American safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amounts spent on the 2008 campaign in retrospect and review reveals that Americans will sing and dance while Rome burns &#8211; given the crisis in its infrastructures and transportation and security systems.</p>
<p>In an earlier day, or era, more rational minds would have prevailed &#8211; and priorities assigned by judgments of what is important to Americans for an American future and for American safety.</p>
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		<title>By: AB-Prosper &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kooks and Crooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>AB-Prosper &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kooks and Crooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the organizational acumen to do very basic things we could do years ago. Our schools are failing, our infrastructure is crumbling we couldn&#8217;t save NOLA from drowning and we haven&#8217;t been back to the moon, or anywhere [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the organizational acumen to do very basic things we could do years ago. Our schools are failing, our infrastructure is crumbling we couldn&#8217;t save NOLA from drowning and we haven&#8217;t been back to the moon, or anywhere [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fiscal Responsibility (OR Is ignoring your largest expenditure responsible?) &#171; Damn Lefties</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiscal Responsibility (OR Is ignoring your largest expenditure responsible?) &#171; Damn Lefties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 02:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] do I bring this up again? Because of stories like this, and Matt Yglesias&#8217; regular mention of our need for mass transportation infrastructure, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: FEDeral UP</title>
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		<dc:creator>FEDeral UP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 17:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would the ruling class of the U.S want to bother repairing anything when they are busy setting up end game overseas and digging bloody great underground cities to protect themselves from whatever happens in 2012. Money doesn&#039;t mean that much to them, control is what is wanted, whether it be debt, chipped humans doped up water, mercury in infants vaccines or aerosol spraying of dodgy chemical soups from planes... the list goes on.  Remember, 50 million rulers to 500 million servants and the rest are expendable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would the ruling class of the U.S want to bother repairing anything when they are busy setting up end game overseas and digging bloody great underground cities to protect themselves from whatever happens in 2012. Money doesn&#8217;t mean that much to them, control is what is wanted, whether it be debt, chipped humans doped up water, mercury in infants vaccines or aerosol spraying of dodgy chemical soups from planes&#8230; the list goes on.  Remember, 50 million rulers to 500 million servants and the rest are expendable.</p>
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		<title>By: Earth Is In Its 6th Extinction Cycle And Humans Are An Endangered Species &#124; Justanothercoverup.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earth Is In Its 6th Extinction Cycle And Humans Are An Endangered Species &#124; Justanothercoverup.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in-depth information on the crumbling infrastructure in America, be sure to read &#8220;Pols fail to comprehend breadth of infrastructure crisis&#8221; which is posted on Scholars and Rogues. To understand the depth of the crisis in America, this is a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in-depth information on the crumbling infrastructure in America, be sure to read &#8220;Pols fail to comprehend breadth of infrastructure crisis&#8221; which is posted on Scholars and Rogues. To understand the depth of the crisis in America, this is a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Packy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Packy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a new problem either.  In 1983 I moved to Connecticut from the Great Lakes region.  When I got there, I saw signs posted all over the place declaring &quot;Road Legally Closed - Pass At Your Own Risk&quot;.  These were posted because the state didn&#039;t have the money to fix the roads and intended the signs to free the state from liability for damage to vehicles.  There were even &quot;Sidewalk Legally Closed&quot; signs.  Eventually these notices were all determined to be illegal and not serve their intended purpose of exonerating the state.  I left CT after two years, and ceased worrying about the condition of their roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a new problem either.  In 1983 I moved to Connecticut from the Great Lakes region.  When I got there, I saw signs posted all over the place declaring &#8220;Road Legally Closed &#8211; Pass At Your Own Risk&#8221;.  These were posted because the state didn&#8217;t have the money to fix the roads and intended the signs to free the state from liability for damage to vehicles.  There were even &#8220;Sidewalk Legally Closed&#8221; signs.  Eventually these notices were all determined to be illegal and not serve their intended purpose of exonerating the state.  I left CT after two years, and ceased worrying about the condition of their roads.</p>
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		<title>By: freeyoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>freeyoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œ[a] vast array of pharmaceuticals â€” including antibiotics, anti-convulsants, mood stabilizers and sex hormones â€” have been found in the drinking water supplies of at least 41 million Americans.â€ 

Scare tactic.  The amount of drugs is so small compared to the volume of water that it&#039;s a phony issue.  The fools that believed that story went out and bought bottled water or water filters.  It reminds of the syringes on the beaches stories years ago to freak people out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œ[a] vast array of pharmaceuticals â€” including antibiotics, anti-convulsants, mood stabilizers and sex hormones â€” have been found in the drinking water supplies of at least 41 million Americans.â€ </p>
<p>Scare tactic.  The amount of drugs is so small compared to the volume of water that it&#8217;s a phony issue.  The fools that believed that story went out and bought bottled water or water filters.  It reminds of the syringes on the beaches stories years ago to freak people out.</p>
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		<title>By: Eye on Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eye on Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the benefit of the doubt, over the people is staggering. Our roads, bridges, waterlines, sewers - our total infrastructure - which was built during that 65 year Democratic Congressional majority, is now crumbling from the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the benefit of the doubt, over the people is staggering. Our roads, bridges, waterlines, sewers &#8211; our total infrastructure &#8211; which was built during that 65 year Democratic Congressional majority, is now crumbling from the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OddAmerica - Our infrastructure is literally crumbling from beneath us</title>
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		<dc:creator>OddAmerica - Our infrastructure is literally crumbling from beneath us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] S&amp;R: (h/t Mike Sheehan) The United States has much more than failing bridges to find, fund and fix. The proposals of the remaining presidential candidates do little to inspire faith that they understand the breadth of the problem or have the political skill, will and courage to address it forthrightly. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] S&amp;R: (h/t Mike Sheehan) The United States has much more than failing bridges to find, fund and fix. The proposals of the remaining presidential candidates do little to inspire faith that they understand the breadth of the problem or have the political skill, will and courage to address it forthrightly. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Christian Science Monitor article said:

&quot;It would be a monumental mistake to turn the future of America&#039;s infrastructure over to the same crowd that brought us the subprime crisis, an economy loaded down with debt, and recession&quot;

The author has it so wrong, on so many different levels.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Christian Science Monitor article said:</p>
<p>&#8220;It would be a monumental mistake to turn the future of America&#8217;s infrastructure over to the same crowd that brought us the subprime crisis, an economy loaded down with debt, and recession&#8221;</p>
<p>The author has it so wrong, on so many different levels.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Vierotchka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vierotchka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lex, #10 - apart from the fact that capitalism is fundamentally evil since it is based and thrives on slavery and on the pillage of poor countries, it is also eminently unsustainable and is now entering its death throes, at last. One could say that capitalism is one huge ponzi scheme, and we all know how those work and where they lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lex, #10 &#8211; apart from the fact that capitalism is fundamentally evil since it is based and thrives on slavery and on the pillage of poor countries, it is also eminently unsustainable and is now entering its death throes, at last. One could say that capitalism is one huge ponzi scheme, and we all know how those work and where they lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Vierotchka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vierotchka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During my first visit to the USA, back in 1984, I was shocked by the state of decay and dilapidation of the USA&#039;s roads and bridges, and other infrastructures. That tens of thousands of bridges haven&#039;t collapsed since then is very much a miracle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During my first visit to the USA, back in 1984, I was shocked by the state of decay and dilapidation of the USA&#8217;s roads and bridges, and other infrastructures. That tens of thousands of bridges haven&#8217;t collapsed since then is very much a miracle.</p>
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		<title>By: atlas spanked</title>
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		<dc:creator>atlas spanked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, but TAXES, waaaaaaah!

&quot;Ron Paul 2008, No IRS!&quot;

(Not!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, but TAXES, waaaaaaah!</p>
<p>&#8220;Ron Paul 2008, No IRS!&#8221;</p>
<p>(Not!)</p>
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		<title>By: JBS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it looks like Hillery has proposed an inadequate plan for beginning to deal with the problem. What have any of the other candidates proposed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it looks like Hillery has proposed an inadequate plan for beginning to deal with the problem. What have any of the other candidates proposed?</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Dr. Denny.  That is an excellent solution.  It also raises an interesting issue about capitalism...something that gets a well deserved bum rap.  But capitalism isn&#039;t necessarily evil.  Unfortunately, we apply it in ways that encourage its abuse.

I like to imagine (because imagination is all that i&#039;m going to get) an America where instead of sending our hard-earned income off to LLC&#039;s on Wall Street in order to get table crumbs from the transfer of wealth, we might invest those same monies into local economies, infrastructure, etc.  I have nothing against Wall Street or corporations, per se, they&#039;ve a right to exist and profit.  But we cannot keep giving them all the money (and power that goes with it) and then turn around and bemoan their heartless behavior.

We&#039;ve been sold the idea that an IRA or a 401K makes you part of the ownership class...a real capitalist.  But does it?  I don&#039;t want to see infrastructure owned by private companies, but i would be happy to see it owned by the equivalent of community credit unions...i&#039;d plunk my toll money into the bin with some pride.

Dream on, sucker...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Dr. Denny.  That is an excellent solution.  It also raises an interesting issue about capitalism&#8230;something that gets a well deserved bum rap.  But capitalism isn&#8217;t necessarily evil.  Unfortunately, we apply it in ways that encourage its abuse.</p>
<p>I like to imagine (because imagination is all that i&#8217;m going to get) an America where instead of sending our hard-earned income off to LLC&#8217;s on Wall Street in order to get table crumbs from the transfer of wealth, we might invest those same monies into local economies, infrastructure, etc.  I have nothing against Wall Street or corporations, per se, they&#8217;ve a right to exist and profit.  But we cannot keep giving them all the money (and power that goes with it) and then turn around and bemoan their heartless behavior.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been sold the idea that an IRA or a 401K makes you part of the ownership class&#8230;a real capitalist.  But does it?  I don&#8217;t want to see infrastructure owned by private companies, but i would be happy to see it owned by the equivalent of community credit unions&#8230;i&#8217;d plunk my toll money into the bin with some pride.</p>
<p>Dream on, sucker&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A: Here&#039;s a piece in the Christian Science Monitor that argues for pension-fund investment in infrastructure reconstruction rather than Wall Street investment funds.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0507/p09s02-coop.html

Thanks to all for their thoughtful comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A: Here&#8217;s a piece in the Christian Science Monitor that argues for pension-fund investment in infrastructure reconstruction rather than Wall Street investment funds.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0507/p09s02-coop.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0507/p09s02-coop.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks to all for their thoughtful comments.</p>
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		<title>By: A Siegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Siegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent discussion.  Thus, to start, thank you for bringing a little light to a basically &#039;out-of-sight, out-of-mind&#039; issue arena for most ... that is, until a bridge collapses and then it is a 15-minutes of fame item.

A key part of this challenge, of course, is the battle between patching holes and fostering a 21st century, sustainable infrastructure.  How to get money upfront, in a &#039;cost to own&#039; investment rather than lowest bidder &#039;cost-to-own&#039;.  And, moving toward lower energy-intensive infrastructure (for construction, maintenance, operations).  The resources for that will, sadly, be hard-pressed to find in the challenging environment that the Republicans have created.

And, sadly, one thing that has been missing is how serious investment in moving on this path is the type of stimulus that moves the economy today while making it operate better tomorrow. Instead, &quot;stimulus&quot; money is giving out in checks to be spent on buying things, today, rather than improving things for today and tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent discussion.  Thus, to start, thank you for bringing a little light to a basically &#8216;out-of-sight, out-of-mind&#8217; issue arena for most &#8230; that is, until a bridge collapses and then it is a 15-minutes of fame item.</p>
<p>A key part of this challenge, of course, is the battle between patching holes and fostering a 21st century, sustainable infrastructure.  How to get money upfront, in a &#8216;cost to own&#8217; investment rather than lowest bidder &#8216;cost-to-own&#8217;.  And, moving toward lower energy-intensive infrastructure (for construction, maintenance, operations).  The resources for that will, sadly, be hard-pressed to find in the challenging environment that the Republicans have created.</p>
<p>And, sadly, one thing that has been missing is how serious investment in moving on this path is the type of stimulus that moves the economy today while making it operate better tomorrow. Instead, &#8220;stimulus&#8221; money is giving out in checks to be spent on buying things, today, rather than improving things for today and tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Libertina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libertina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t put too much weight on campaign promises. No one is going to say &quot;I&#039;m going to spend half a trillion on new pipes&quot; during a campaign. That would be suicide.

Of course, they wouldn&#039;t be able to get that funding afterwards either, but I believe Obama would be the most likely to try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put too much weight on campaign promises. No one is going to say &#8220;I&#8217;m going to spend half a trillion on new pipes&#8221; during a campaign. That would be suicide.</p>
<p>Of course, they wouldn&#8217;t be able to get that funding afterwards either, but I believe Obama would be the most likely to try.</p>
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