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By: BlueMonkey

BlueMonkey — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:31:40 +0000

So many babies surviving late-term abortion? Please provide citations.

That old straw man is always thrown out by the right wingers when, in fact, late-term abortions are so rare as to be such a unique event that they are pondered over incessantly in the rare cases that they do happen. It’s a bullshit argument and was flung around excessively when the partial-abortian ban fight was happening (as if ANY woman wants to have that done – idiots).

I’m all for laws preventing the abortion of a viable fetus, but viable means able to live outside the mother’s uterus, not suspended in a damn petri dish. And yes I understand that medical science lowers the age of viability in leaps and bounds, but having given birth to two children, I know when I felt like they were “real” – from the moment I knew I was pregnant. And having had a few scares of the unwanted pregnancy sort, I know that I never thought of myself as carrying a “baby” or “person in his/her own right” just because I was a few days late.

Colorado is officially insane if this passes.

And let’s all remember, this “movement” isn’t about preserving life – never really has been. It’s about keeping uppity women subjected to their bodies and ultimately to men.

By: Jon

Jon — Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:04 +0000

Not that I support the Colorado initiative in the least, but isn’t this reaction a bit over the top as well? Reminds me of the Illinois legislature as it pondered the same question in 2004: when is a person a person? In IL the problem was with unsuccessful late term abortions. It seems that many were surviving that procedure, and doctors were bound to try to help the survival continue. The result there was that if anybody survived an abortion, their legal definition is not that of “person”, but remained that of “fetus”, allowing for the destruction of it. So if, against all odds, there occurs a survivor of an abortion in Illinois, it is destroyed immediately. And voila, now it’s illegal to survive an abortion attempt.
I am not a doctor, I am not a religious right zealot, but it seems to me that if there’s something that looks human, with a beating heart, breathing lungs, screaming like a newborn baby… well, chances are, it’s human. Might not have been human for very long, but as of that moment, my common sense says it’s a human person.
Back to CO though: it seems like these people are heading off in the opposite direction with the same fervor as the IL state legislature. But I don’t see that it leads to the scenarios you mention. Already, laws are in place to allow prosecution for killing unborns. And inasmuch as federal law always supersedes state law, I think that this measure would change nothing.

By: jeff

jeff — Thu, 15 May 2008 01:32:23 +0000

Although I’m not a fan of abortion, I think that measure in Colorado has gone over the top. Dr. Slammy might be on to something with the exemptions….good thinking:)

Jeff

By: www.buzzflash.net

www.buzzflash.net — Wed, 14 May 2008 22:31:22 +0000

A person’s a zygote……

Itâ€™s official. Colorado will have an amendment on the ballot defining a zygote as a person. The ramifications of this range from the absurd, awful, and terrifying all the way to downright misogynistic. Female enslavement, anyone?…

By: Dr. Slammy

Dr. Slammy — Wed, 14 May 2008 22:13:03 +0000

I still say that this kind of law means tax exemptions start 9 months earlier than they do now. And if a woman escapes the chair for having a miscarriage – and times it just right – she gets the exemption without having to actually give birth.