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	<title>Comments on: George Will can&#8217;t stop lying!</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-55989</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You analysis of Will is rife with the Fallacy that there is some tautology between Bush, or &quot;ocial Conservatives&quot; and Will. I do not agree with George Will on everything. I suspect his ideology accepts more intrusions on liberty than mine. But I do not make the mistake of presuming that Will share large common ground with the &quot;social conservatives&quot; that control the GOP today. That said proponents of liberty tend to hold their noses and support the right, because the left is more dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You analysis of Will is rife with the Fallacy that there is some tautology between Bush, or &#8220;ocial Conservatives&#8221; and Will. I do not agree with George Will on everything. I suspect his ideology accepts more intrusions on liberty than mine. But I do not make the mistake of presuming that Will share large common ground with the &#8220;social conservatives&#8221; that control the GOP today. That said proponents of liberty tend to hold their noses and support the right, because the left is more dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoshi</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42482</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like George Will a lot.  He&#039;s a warm guy and makes an intelligent case for &quot;true conservatism&quot;.  I thought Stephen was being a jerk by randomly trying to rope George&#039;s religious belief into the argument (I suspect he was hoping George would fulfill the stereotype of a &quot;conservative Christian&quot; in order to call him out on an ideological hypocrisy.)  I think it&#039;s totally irresponsible and somewhat hateful to pick apart the very few words Will managed to blurt out without a nuanced understanding of his arguments.  I recommend watching the recent interview with Charlie Rose.  

By the way, I&#039;m a fan of the Colbert Report.  I just thought this was a refreshing interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like George Will a lot.  He&#8217;s a warm guy and makes an intelligent case for &#8220;true conservatism&#8221;.  I thought Stephen was being a jerk by randomly trying to rope George&#8217;s religious belief into the argument (I suspect he was hoping George would fulfill the stereotype of a &#8220;conservative Christian&#8221; in order to call him out on an ideological hypocrisy.)  I think it&#8217;s totally irresponsible and somewhat hateful to pick apart the very few words Will managed to blurt out without a nuanced understanding of his arguments.  I recommend watching the recent interview with Charlie Rose.  </p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m a fan of the Colbert Report.  I just thought this was a refreshing interview.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42240</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jvill.

But you&#039;re admittedly still full of hokum.  At least we&#039;re not self-delusional. 

 Go take another hit.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jvill.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re admittedly still full of hokum.  At least we&#8217;re not self-delusional. </p>
<p> Go take another hit.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: jvill</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42212</link>
		<dc:creator>jvill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle.&quot;

When you drive a wedge through the middle, you break everything in two.

Ha!  Worthless, hokum just like yours, only mine sounds better.

Where were all these calls for bipartisanship love-in when the Republicans were running things?

You guys are transparent like Gladwrap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle.&#8221;</p>
<p>When you drive a wedge through the middle, you break everything in two.</p>
<p>Ha!  Worthless, hokum just like yours, only mine sounds better.</p>
<p>Where were all these calls for bipartisanship love-in when the Republicans were running things?</p>
<p>You guys are transparent like Gladwrap.</p>
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		<title>By: jvill</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42210</link>
		<dc:creator>jvill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesh, somebody didn&#039;t like gettin&#039; all those wedgies.</description>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42209</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bird#73,

Not only do I know what George Will is about, I am an acquaintance of him, and have many mutual friend.

Reading all of this vitriol on this thread makes me realize that both conservative blogs and liberal blogs make the same accusations against each other.  You could take this thread and substitute the words conservative and Republican with liberal and Democrat, and it would sound exactly the same as they are writing over in the conservative media.  Both sides are levying the exact same arguments about the characteristics of members of the other side, with the exception that the Conservative side engages in a little less hand wringing. 

 I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Jeff

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bird#73,</p>
<p>Not only do I know what George Will is about, I am an acquaintance of him, and have many mutual friend.</p>
<p>Reading all of this vitriol on this thread makes me realize that both conservative blogs and liberal blogs make the same accusations against each other.  You could take this thread and substitute the words conservative and Republican with liberal and Democrat, and it would sound exactly the same as they are writing over in the conservative media.  Both sides are levying the exact same arguments about the characteristics of members of the other side, with the exception that the Conservative side engages in a little less hand wringing. </p>
<p> I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42195</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bird: Thanks for dropping by with a bit of omniscience for us. I know we&#039;re all more enlightened for it.

By the way, I paint Will as conflating &quot;conservative&quot; with &quot;Republican&quot; not because I&#039;m an ill-informed moron who doesn&#039;t know the man - I&#039;ve been reading him on and off for 20 years or more - but rather because HE SAID THAT HIMSELF.

Maybe you could, you know, watch the video before you get your panties in a wad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bird: Thanks for dropping by with a bit of omniscience for us. I know we&#8217;re all more enlightened for it.</p>
<p>By the way, I paint Will as conflating &#8220;conservative&#8221; with &#8220;Republican&#8221; not because I&#8217;m an ill-informed moron who doesn&#8217;t know the man &#8211; I&#8217;ve been reading him on and off for 20 years or more &#8211; but rather because HE SAID THAT HIMSELF.</p>
<p>Maybe you could, you know, watch the video before you get your panties in a wad.</p>
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		<title>By: joviel</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42191</link>
		<dc:creator>joviel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much of the above conflates &quot;Republican&quot; and &quot;Conservative&quot;.  Will was speaking of conservatives, not Republicans.  The Republican party left conservatism a long time ago.  Well, eight years, anyway.  Truth is, there is nothing conservative about the current brand of Republican.  While I don&#039;t agree with Conservatives, I can at least respect their ideals.  Traditionally, Conservatives are

1)  Fiscally responsible
2)  Isolationist
3)  Fiercely defensive of our civil liberties.

This crowd is;

4)  None of the above.

Conservatives are in fact appalled by the current Republican party, consider it hijacked and are looking for ways to reclaim it.  Which is another reason November will be a blowout.  

What is scary is the number of Republicans who &gt;haven&#039;t&lt; been appalled by this incarnation of their party.  There is a sheep-like mentality to these people who don&#039;t seem to be able to notice that their party has been co-opted.  Read Dean&#039;s &quot;Conservatives Without a Conscience&quot; for a peek into this.

I suspect that Mr. Will, like his inspiration Mr. Goldwater, wouldn&#039;t piss on Bush if he were on fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of the above conflates &#8220;Republican&#8221; and &#8220;Conservative&#8221;.  Will was speaking of conservatives, not Republicans.  The Republican party left conservatism a long time ago.  Well, eight years, anyway.  Truth is, there is nothing conservative about the current brand of Republican.  While I don&#8217;t agree with Conservatives, I can at least respect their ideals.  Traditionally, Conservatives are</p>
<p>1)  Fiscally responsible<br />
2)  Isolationist<br />
3)  Fiercely defensive of our civil liberties.</p>
<p>This crowd is;</p>
<p>4)  None of the above.</p>
<p>Conservatives are in fact appalled by the current Republican party, consider it hijacked and are looking for ways to reclaim it.  Which is another reason November will be a blowout.  </p>
<p>What is scary is the number of Republicans who &gt;haven&#8217;t&lt; been appalled by this incarnation of their party.  There is a sheep-like mentality to these people who don&#8217;t seem to be able to notice that their party has been co-opted.  Read Dean&#8217;s &#8220;Conservatives Without a Conscience&#8221; for a peek into this.</p>
<p>I suspect that Mr. Will, like his inspiration Mr. Goldwater, wouldn&#8217;t piss on Bush if he were on fire.</p>
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		<title>By: baker46</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42184</link>
		<dc:creator>baker46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Watch what we do, not what we say.&quot;  - John Mitchell (Nixon&#039;s attorney general, in his pre-imprisonment days.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Watch what we do, not what we say.&#8221;  &#8211; John Mitchell (Nixon&#8217;s attorney general, in his pre-imprisonment days.)</p>
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		<title>By: bird yoshikawa</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42166</link>
		<dc:creator>bird yoshikawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You shouldn&#039;t rail against someone until you understand what they&#039;re talking about. I&#039;m a liberal Democrat. I&#039;m not your enemy. But you clearly don&#039;t understand the difference between the words Republican and Conservative. They are not the same. If you knew what George Will was about, you would know that. You make the folks on our side look bad. Study up a bit more, and then blog about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You shouldn&#8217;t rail against someone until you understand what they&#8217;re talking about. I&#8217;m a liberal Democrat. I&#8217;m not your enemy. But you clearly don&#8217;t understand the difference between the words Republican and Conservative. They are not the same. If you knew what George Will was about, you would know that. You make the folks on our side look bad. Study up a bit more, and then blog about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42161</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will threw a fat one down the middle, Dr. S., and you slammed it out of Wrigley Field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will threw a fat one down the middle, Dr. S., and you slammed it out of Wrigley Field.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42154</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 01:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me........

I&#039;m sure Democrats and liberals hold a monoply on the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Democrats and liberals hold a monoply on the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;George Will canâ€™t stop lying!&quot;

Of course not. He&#039;s a republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;George Will canâ€™t stop lying!&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course not. He&#8217;s a republican.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/04/george-will-cant-stop-lying/comment-page-2/#comment-42145</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wheeee Said, June 7, 2008 at 12:29 am : 
&quot;Must suck to be a conservative these days. I mean how do you know who you are? how do you know if youâ€™re a real conservative or a fake conservative? or maybe an imaginary conservative?&quot;

The commenters really don&#039;t have a clue what conservatism is. Call it cognative dissonance....I just don&#039;t know.  I&#039;m a conservative and proud of it. 

I&#039;m also an evil minion of the neo-con movement, desperate to take the food from the poor and enrich myself in the process.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wheeee Said, June 7, 2008 at 12:29 am :<br />
&#8220;Must suck to be a conservative these days. I mean how do you know who you are? how do you know if youâ€™re a real conservative or a fake conservative? or maybe an imaginary conservative?&#8221;</p>
<p>The commenters really don&#8217;t have a clue what conservatism is. Call it cognative dissonance&#8230;.I just don&#8217;t know.  I&#8217;m a conservative and proud of it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also an evil minion of the neo-con movement, desperate to take the food from the poor and enrich myself in the process.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Whatta Jerk Will Is</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whatta Jerk Will Is</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will believes in a baseball game played without umpires. The umpires get in the way of the batting team&#039;s desire to score runs- inhibit their freedom to run up a score. But done in this fashion, the same team would bat forever and there would cease to be but one team in the league. The league would quickly crash and burn. Only prompt action by an outside force would save the sport and restore public confidence in the institution. Oh, and Will is an unbelievably arrogant asshole for a guy who has just witnessed conservatism in action with little restraint for six years- and its results are just the same as they were in the 1920&#039;s when the right wing ideologues controlled the government- except that luckily today we have an FDR safety net  in the FDIC to prevent general panics and bank runs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will believes in a baseball game played without umpires. The umpires get in the way of the batting team&#8217;s desire to score runs- inhibit their freedom to run up a score. But done in this fashion, the same team would bat forever and there would cease to be but one team in the league. The league would quickly crash and burn. Only prompt action by an outside force would save the sport and restore public confidence in the institution. Oh, and Will is an unbelievably arrogant asshole for a guy who has just witnessed conservatism in action with little restraint for six years- and its results are just the same as they were in the 1920&#8217;s when the right wing ideologues controlled the government- except that luckily today we have an FDR safety net  in the FDIC to prevent general panics and bank runs.</p>
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		<title>By: jcasey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcasey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah George Will.  You&#039;re right about the straw men and the self-refuting conservative idealism.  Now he&#039;s turned into somewhat of a crank global warming denier as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah George Will.  You&#8217;re right about the straw men and the self-refuting conservative idealism.  Now he&#8217;s turned into somewhat of a crank global warming denier as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will shows his lack of intellectual depth when he says that &quot;Conservatives tend to favor freedom and are willing to accept inequalities of outcome from a free market and liberals tend to favor equality of outcome and to sacrifice and to circumscribe freedom in order to get it.&quot;  In this context freedom is the &quot;right&quot; to sleep in doorways and to eat out of dumpsters.  Inequality is a lack of proper care for the mentally ill and a lack of a higher education for those not affluent enough to afford one.  An aspect of actual freedom is the ability to compete fairly for available resources and not have one&#039;s ability to do so curtailed by circumstances one neither created not has control over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will shows his lack of intellectual depth when he says that &#8220;Conservatives tend to favor freedom and are willing to accept inequalities of outcome from a free market and liberals tend to favor equality of outcome and to sacrifice and to circumscribe freedom in order to get it.&#8221;  In this context freedom is the &#8220;right&#8221; to sleep in doorways and to eat out of dumpsters.  Inequality is a lack of proper care for the mentally ill and a lack of a higher education for those not affluent enough to afford one.  An aspect of actual freedom is the ability to compete fairly for available resources and not have one&#8217;s ability to do so curtailed by circumstances one neither created not has control over.</p>
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		<title>By: Spacer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spacer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Georgie sez: &quot;We understand that the governmentâ€™s job is to deliver the mail, defend the shores and get out of the way.â€


Then unless Will is a sniveling hypocrite, he should eat ONLY food from sources that have never had FDA or USDA inspectors interfering in their &quot;free market enterprise&quot; with those onerous inspections and insistence on nanny-state health and sanitation standards.  

Of course, after 8 years of the Bush regime and their foxes-guarding-hen-houses philosophy, maybe there wouldn&#039;t be much more additional  risk if they just abolished those departments altogether and let the free market reign supreme. If there were any justice in the world, Will would be the first one to swallow a nice big mouth full  of salmonella-tainted spinach after total &quot;freedom&quot; was restored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Georgie sez: &#8220;We understand that the governmentâ€™s job is to deliver the mail, defend the shores and get out of the way.â€</p>
<p>Then unless Will is a sniveling hypocrite, he should eat ONLY food from sources that have never had FDA or USDA inspectors interfering in their &#8220;free market enterprise&#8221; with those onerous inspections and insistence on nanny-state health and sanitation standards.  </p>
<p>Of course, after 8 years of the Bush regime and their foxes-guarding-hen-houses philosophy, maybe there wouldn&#8217;t be much more additional  risk if they just abolished those departments altogether and let the free market reign supreme. If there were any justice in the world, Will would be the first one to swallow a nice big mouth full  of salmonella-tainted spinach after total &#8220;freedom&#8221; was restored.</p>
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		<title>By: Mugsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mugsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve yet to hear a Conservative give a credible definition of &quot;Liberal&quot;. And their definition of &quot;Conservative&quot; NEVER meshes with reality. Such was the case here.

The best definition of the two I&#039;ve concocted is: &quot;Conservatives believe people are basically *evil*, and left to their own devices, will behave evilly.&quot; Is it any wonder they believe this when you just look at the kind of people that call themselves &quot;Conservative&quot;?

I continue: &quot;Therefore, Conservatives believe that abstract entities like &#039;business&#039; are &#039;pure&#039;, free of the frailties of human desire, and if left to the free market, simple market forces will always produce the most beneficial outcome for people or else &#039;the Market&#039; will kill them off.&quot;

If you are a Liberal, you already see the fallacy of that kind of thinking. In the quest for ever greater profits, businesses will always provide the absolute least/worst it can and still turn a profit.

&quot;Liberals&quot; on the other hand, &quot;believe that at heart, all people are basically good and only want what&#039;s best for themselves and society. Where Conservatives regulate people to aid business, Liberals regulate business to keep it from harming people.&quot;

I&#039;ve yet to hear a better definition. Will&#039;s wasn&#039;t even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve yet to hear a Conservative give a credible definition of &#8220;Liberal&#8221;. And their definition of &#8220;Conservative&#8221; NEVER meshes with reality. Such was the case here.</p>
<p>The best definition of the two I&#8217;ve concocted is: &#8220;Conservatives believe people are basically *evil*, and left to their own devices, will behave evilly.&#8221; Is it any wonder they believe this when you just look at the kind of people that call themselves &#8220;Conservative&#8221;?</p>
<p>I continue: &#8220;Therefore, Conservatives believe that abstract entities like &#8216;business&#8217; are &#8216;pure&#8217;, free of the frailties of human desire, and if left to the free market, simple market forces will always produce the most beneficial outcome for people or else &#8216;the Market&#8217; will kill them off.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you are a Liberal, you already see the fallacy of that kind of thinking. In the quest for ever greater profits, businesses will always provide the absolute least/worst it can and still turn a profit.</p>
<p>&#8220;Liberals&#8221; on the other hand, &#8220;believe that at heart, all people are basically good and only want what&#8217;s best for themselves and society. Where Conservatives regulate people to aid business, Liberals regulate business to keep it from harming people.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve yet to hear a better definition. Will&#8217;s wasn&#8217;t even close.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives seem today what they have always been, hatefull and angry.  They say they are for the free market but in reality they just want to see people they don&#039;t like (almost everyone), kept down with no real opportunity to dig themselves out.  They don&#039;t mind watching poor people suffer, they don&#039;t mind watching healthcare companies muder Americans in the name of making money.  Their is really no point at which a conservative will stop and say out loud &quot;People should be our business&quot;. For the conservative money trumps all.  Screw everyone who isn&#039;t making it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives seem today what they have always been, hatefull and angry.  They say they are for the free market but in reality they just want to see people they don&#8217;t like (almost everyone), kept down with no real opportunity to dig themselves out.  They don&#8217;t mind watching poor people suffer, they don&#8217;t mind watching healthcare companies muder Americans in the name of making money.  Their is really no point at which a conservative will stop and say out loud &#8220;People should be our business&#8221;. For the conservative money trumps all.  Screw everyone who isn&#8217;t making it.</p>
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