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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The election of Obama should have notified the other nations on earth that America is not willing to tolerate actions based upon racial or ethnic hatred, and that all countries must be in the business of mending their social fabric in a manner to alleviate the brutality caused by prejudice and fear of other people. As the only measure of human progress worthy of calling progress, America has made attempts in the past which failed, has faltered under stress conditions which challenged both its motive and its methods, but has of educated necessity strived toward the goal that Martin Luther King set in his recognition of what it takes for humans to live together peaceably without discrimination. Anti-racism cannot be forced upon people any more than racism can be forced upon people. The Obama experiment for the public, and the Obama reality for the government offers a close encounter with the issues upon which any nation is founded in the area of ethnic/racial relations in order to define the pride that any people can define as part of the national landscape, that in the Presidential arena, becomes part of the international landscape. 

It is not so much a question of whether Obama succeeds, but whether or not he fails to leave the White House having made equivalent progress with other white male Presidents, not less.

It is not so much a question of whether Obama fails, but whether or not the American people succeed to have voted in, entertained, and made progress in its national architecture of human relations within the international framework of government and global relations as is the undisclosed but diplomatic objective of any people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The election of Obama should have notified the other nations on earth that America is not willing to tolerate actions based upon racial or ethnic hatred, and that all countries must be in the business of mending their social fabric in a manner to alleviate the brutality caused by prejudice and fear of other people. As the only measure of human progress worthy of calling progress, America has made attempts in the past which failed, has faltered under stress conditions which challenged both its motive and its methods, but has of educated necessity strived toward the goal that Martin Luther King set in his recognition of what it takes for humans to live together peaceably without discrimination. Anti-racism cannot be forced upon people any more than racism can be forced upon people. The Obama experiment for the public, and the Obama reality for the government offers a close encounter with the issues upon which any nation is founded in the area of ethnic/racial relations in order to define the pride that any people can define as part of the national landscape, that in the Presidential arena, becomes part of the international landscape. </p>
<p>It is not so much a question of whether Obama succeeds, but whether or not he fails to leave the White House having made equivalent progress with other white male Presidents, not less.</p>
<p>It is not so much a question of whether Obama fails, but whether or not the American people succeed to have voted in, entertained, and made progress in its national architecture of human relations within the international framework of government and global relations as is the undisclosed but diplomatic objective of any people.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

As far as debt is concerned, and defecit spending, have you ever compared the total debt and defecits of the USA as a percent of GDP to that of the other industrialized nations.....the result would surprise you.

If Obama comes through with his opressive taxation scheme, many will be forced to domicile their business offshore, and will ultimately reduce government revenues.  Although the mere mention of the Laffer curve is probably heresy in this group, it has it&#039;s merits.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>As far as debt is concerned, and defecit spending, have you ever compared the total debt and defecits of the USA as a percent of GDP to that of the other industrialized nations&#8230;..the result would surprise you.</p>
<p>If Obama comes through with his opressive taxation scheme, many will be forced to domicile their business offshore, and will ultimately reduce government revenues.  Although the mere mention of the Laffer curve is probably heresy in this group, it has it&#8217;s merits.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, I can see how someone with your background would consider Obama to be anti-business, although I prefer to view him as forcing business to adapt to new realities that it&#039;s presently resisting.  :)

As far as the taxes you listed, I pay most of them, and I don&#039;t really have a problem with them going up even though it&#039;ll mean more taxes out of my paycheck.  In general, I don&#039;t have a problem with paying taxes so long as I get something out of them.  And if the only thing I get is a lower debt, that&#039;s good enough.  Better higher taxes for debt payments than who knows how many more years of BS &quot;emergency supplemental&quot; spending bills to pay for our occupation of Iraq....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I can see how someone with your background would consider Obama to be anti-business, although I prefer to view him as forcing business to adapt to new realities that it&#8217;s presently resisting.  <img src='http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As far as the taxes you listed, I pay most of them, and I don&#8217;t really have a problem with them going up even though it&#8217;ll mean more taxes out of my paycheck.  In general, I don&#8217;t have a problem with paying taxes so long as I get something out of them.  And if the only thing I get is a lower debt, that&#8217;s good enough.  Better higher taxes for debt payments than who knows how many more years of BS &#8220;emergency supplemental&#8221; spending bills to pay for our occupation of Iraq&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

A few of my  major problems with Obama is that he&#039;s anti business, wants to raise taxes for everyone(despite his saying he only wants to tax the rich), raise the capital gains tax, impose windfall taxes,  increase estate taxes, increase witholding taxes, and raise Social Security taxes.  All in all, he voted for every tax increase that went to the floor.....some put it at him voting for a tax increase every 5 days of his senate career.  His stance on unions  is very inflationary and causes me concern.

 I have no objection to change.....I just wish his ideas of change were spelled out concisely,  quantified, and stripped of the flowery rhetoric. A good understanding of his intentions would allow the people who really pay the majority of the taxes to duck and cover.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>A few of my  major problems with Obama is that he&#8217;s anti business, wants to raise taxes for everyone(despite his saying he only wants to tax the rich), raise the capital gains tax, impose windfall taxes,  increase estate taxes, increase witholding taxes, and raise Social Security taxes.  All in all, he voted for every tax increase that went to the floor&#8230;..some put it at him voting for a tax increase every 5 days of his senate career.  His stance on unions  is very inflationary and causes me concern.</p>
<p> I have no objection to change&#8230;..I just wish his ideas of change were spelled out concisely,  quantified, and stripped of the flowery rhetoric. A good understanding of his intentions would allow the people who really pay the majority of the taxes to duck and cover.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: tictacgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>tictacgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel,

Seems like such criticisms of Obama amount to ... just words, coming from those who seem to have little desire to inform themselves. Very helpful of you to leave that link. I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll be visiting it quite often to inform myself of what other Clinton-McCain talking points are doing the rounds.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

cheerio

ps: try writing a &quot;flowery&quot; speech sometime. Its not as easy as it appears.

pps: do let us know which one of his speeches you HAVE read. The race speech perhaps. No? The one on defense. Not that one either. The one on the economy, or the one on a vision of politics and public debate which rises above such talking-points and rumor mongering. Its a long list and you should do you hw before making unsubstantiable comments.

Better luck next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel,</p>
<p>Seems like such criticisms of Obama amount to &#8230; just words, coming from those who seem to have little desire to inform themselves. Very helpful of you to leave that link. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll be visiting it quite often to inform myself of what other Clinton-McCain talking points are doing the rounds.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/" rel="nofollow">http://www.barackobama.com/issues/</a></p>
<p>cheerio</p>
<p>ps: try writing a &#8220;flowery&#8221; speech sometime. Its not as easy as it appears.</p>
<p>pps: do let us know which one of his speeches you HAVE read. The race speech perhaps. No? The one on defense. Not that one either. The one on the economy, or the one on a vision of politics and public debate which rises above such talking-points and rumor mongering. Its a long list and you should do you hw before making unsubstantiable comments.</p>
<p>Better luck next time.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel - Obama may well lose, but a) it may well be because he&#039;s black and b) it certainly won&#039;t be because he doesn&#039;t have ideas.

I used to criticize the Obama campaign for &lt;em&gt;exactly&lt;/em&gt; what you&#039;re saying - all flowery words, no substance.  Then a hard-core primary battle forced him to develop the substance behind his words, and it&#039;s definitely there now.

Seriously, check out his campaign site - there&#039;s a huge amount more substance than McCain&#039;s site.  That&#039;s probably because all the substance that McCain would add makes him less appealing to the Republican Party, not more.  After all, McCain doesn&#039;t want his supporters to remember the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform law, his original immigration reform proposals, his votes against restoring the Everglades, etc. because they make his current and prospective supporters less likely to support him in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel &#8211; Obama may well lose, but a) it may well be because he&#8217;s black and b) it certainly won&#8217;t be because he doesn&#8217;t have ideas.</p>
<p>I used to criticize the Obama campaign for <em>exactly</em> what you&#8217;re saying &#8211; all flowery words, no substance.  Then a hard-core primary battle forced him to develop the substance behind his words, and it&#8217;s definitely there now.</p>
<p>Seriously, check out his campaign site &#8211; there&#8217;s a huge amount more substance than McCain&#8217;s site.  That&#8217;s probably because all the substance that McCain would add makes him less appealing to the Republican Party, not more.  After all, McCain doesn&#8217;t want his supporters to remember the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform law, his original immigration reform proposals, his votes against restoring the Everglades, etc. because they make his current and prospective supporters less likely to support him in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Nichols</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Obama loses this election it will have little, if anything to do with the fact that he&#039;s black.  The reason he will lose is because once people get past his great presentation they will see that his ideas, what ideas he has, aren&#039;t any good.  When I hear an Obama Speech I think it&#039;s great, bit when I read an Obama speech I saw there&#039;s nothing behind the words.  Obama sounds great, says nothing.
http://thenewconservatives.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Obama loses this election it will have little, if anything to do with the fact that he&#8217;s black.  The reason he will lose is because once people get past his great presentation they will see that his ideas, what ideas he has, aren&#8217;t any good.  When I hear an Obama Speech I think it&#8217;s great, bit when I read an Obama speech I saw there&#8217;s nothing behind the words.  Obama sounds great, says nothing.<br />
<a href="http://thenewconservatives.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thenewconservatives.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: JS O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we should draw a distinction between &quot;racism&quot; and &quot;nationalism,&quot; or simply &quot;us-ism.&quot;  If we define racism as bigotry based on skin color and other surface physical characteristics, I can&#039;t find an instance of real racism until about the 15th century as Europeans gained a technological advantage and began to equate skin color with technological advancement.  I&#039;m not saying there&#039;s not an instance, but I just don&#039;t know what it is, so I suspect it was somewhat rare.

I&#039;ve been told that Latin and ancient Greek don&#039;t have words for &quot;race,&quot; and my Latin is far to elementary to know any better (my Greek is nonexistent).  But it makes sense.  Neither the Romans nor Greeks would have found classification by race to be very useful.  What did the relatively light-skinned, and sometimes blond and blue-eyed, Romans have in common with the Germans?  The dark-skinned Numideans and Nubians were far more civilized than the Germans and many other Celtic tribes the Romans knew.

No, the Romans and Greeks were basically strongly prejudiced against pretty much anyone who wasn&#039;t Roman or Greek.

My experience with Europeans has been that they attach pretty strong stereotypes to nationalities.  Now, I haven&#039;t been in France since the Islamic immigration wave, so it wouldn&#039;t surprise me in the least to hear much there that could be termed racist.  Yet, I wonder if the Europeans, through long habit, aren&#039;t more focused on nationality than race.  Certainly, I&#039;ve heard stronger invective against Germans there than I&#039;ve heard against, say, Turks.

But maybe that&#039;s because I&#039;ve spent no time in Germany where Turks are numerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we should draw a distinction between &#8220;racism&#8221; and &#8220;nationalism,&#8221; or simply &#8220;us-ism.&#8221;  If we define racism as bigotry based on skin color and other surface physical characteristics, I can&#8217;t find an instance of real racism until about the 15th century as Europeans gained a technological advantage and began to equate skin color with technological advancement.  I&#8217;m not saying there&#8217;s not an instance, but I just don&#8217;t know what it is, so I suspect it was somewhat rare.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been told that Latin and ancient Greek don&#8217;t have words for &#8220;race,&#8221; and my Latin is far to elementary to know any better (my Greek is nonexistent).  But it makes sense.  Neither the Romans nor Greeks would have found classification by race to be very useful.  What did the relatively light-skinned, and sometimes blond and blue-eyed, Romans have in common with the Germans?  The dark-skinned Numideans and Nubians were far more civilized than the Germans and many other Celtic tribes the Romans knew.</p>
<p>No, the Romans and Greeks were basically strongly prejudiced against pretty much anyone who wasn&#8217;t Roman or Greek.</p>
<p>My experience with Europeans has been that they attach pretty strong stereotypes to nationalities.  Now, I haven&#8217;t been in France since the Islamic immigration wave, so it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me in the least to hear much there that could be termed racist.  Yet, I wonder if the Europeans, through long habit, aren&#8217;t more focused on nationality than race.  Certainly, I&#8217;ve heard stronger invective against Germans there than I&#8217;ve heard against, say, Turks.</p>
<p>But maybe that&#8217;s because I&#8217;ve spent no time in Germany where Turks are numerous.</p>
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		<title>By: tictacgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>tictacgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Racism&quot; will never lose its mythical power unless its true nature is revealed. It has very little to do with skin color and everything to do with economic suppression. Almost without exception the most feverish, hard-bitten practitioners of this approach are those in the lowest economic rungs of any society. The ones in power, the ones who actually flame the worst impulses of the mob, might superficially appear to be firm believers in whatever hatred they are preaching. Inevitably what brings such people down is not popular uprising against their methods but the revelation of their own hypocrisy. Consider Ted Haggard the anti-gay preacher. He was gay himself. Larry Craig the anti-gay senator and his not so anti-gay bathroom stall antics. Storm Thurmond the anti-black senator and his forgotten black daughter. The examples go on and on.

I never understood this paradox though I enjoyed watching its fallout everytime. But a paradox ceases to be a paradox if it is seen as the rule rather than the exception.

You won&#039;t hear about racism in an economically ethnically and mixed community. Ultimately all forms of racism and social hatred can be traced back to the presence of economic inequality and the unwillingness of those who have to not share or care for those who don&#039;t. Look at Africa. Why do black people keep killing other blacks? Zimbabwe, Rwanda and now South Africa.

The strongest motivator in nature is hunger. Give a man with an empty stomach platitudes and turn his hunger into hatred at real or imagined injustice and you can use him as a weapon. Over the long arc of human history such weapon&#039;s almost always turn out to be boomerangs, but not before they have wreaked pain and suffering indiscriminately.

This is not to say that hate must not be confronted. But unless we see the real reasons we are just as likely to fan the flames as to put them out. Sadly the hard work of hate-fighting cannot be done by blogging alone. At the end one has to step away from the keyboard, and go do something about it such as feeding the hungry and helping the poor. It is the misery around us that we ignore that will everntually turn into the weapons of hate and discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Racism&#8221; will never lose its mythical power unless its true nature is revealed. It has very little to do with skin color and everything to do with economic suppression. Almost without exception the most feverish, hard-bitten practitioners of this approach are those in the lowest economic rungs of any society. The ones in power, the ones who actually flame the worst impulses of the mob, might superficially appear to be firm believers in whatever hatred they are preaching. Inevitably what brings such people down is not popular uprising against their methods but the revelation of their own hypocrisy. Consider Ted Haggard the anti-gay preacher. He was gay himself. Larry Craig the anti-gay senator and his not so anti-gay bathroom stall antics. Storm Thurmond the anti-black senator and his forgotten black daughter. The examples go on and on.</p>
<p>I never understood this paradox though I enjoyed watching its fallout everytime. But a paradox ceases to be a paradox if it is seen as the rule rather than the exception.</p>
<p>You won&#8217;t hear about racism in an economically ethnically and mixed community. Ultimately all forms of racism and social hatred can be traced back to the presence of economic inequality and the unwillingness of those who have to not share or care for those who don&#8217;t. Look at Africa. Why do black people keep killing other blacks? Zimbabwe, Rwanda and now South Africa.</p>
<p>The strongest motivator in nature is hunger. Give a man with an empty stomach platitudes and turn his hunger into hatred at real or imagined injustice and you can use him as a weapon. Over the long arc of human history such weapon&#8217;s almost always turn out to be boomerangs, but not before they have wreaked pain and suffering indiscriminately.</p>
<p>This is not to say that hate must not be confronted. But unless we see the real reasons we are just as likely to fan the flames as to put them out. Sadly the hard work of hate-fighting cannot be done by blogging alone. At the end one has to step away from the keyboard, and go do something about it such as feeding the hungry and helping the poor. It is the misery around us that we ignore that will everntually turn into the weapons of hate and discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: Euphrosyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euphrosyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years ago, I was in Milan with my Italian boyfriend when he looked across the street at one of about five guys selling bootleg DVDs and said (translated),&quot;Those fucking Albanians - they&#039;re taking over.&quot; I said,&quot;Huh? Which one?&quot; He looked at me like I was blind and said,&quot;THAT one.&quot; And I still couldn&#039;t figure out who he was pointing to - they were all white-ish, dressed the same way, selling the same stuff, and we couldn&#039;t hear whatever language they were each speaking.

Here&#039;s the kicker - this guy and I had lived together in Los Angeles for a year prior to that, and I don&#039;t mean lily-white OC or even Tarzana, I mean down on the ground LA. Of course there&#039;s racial and economic segregation, but you can find street meat in the Garment District from at least five different continents, and before the gangs took over Venice Beach it was a mecca of mostly naked multiculturalism... anyway, I had NEVER heard this guy say anything even remotely racist. 

As soon as he hit his home turf, it was damn the immigrant Albanians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago, I was in Milan with my Italian boyfriend when he looked across the street at one of about five guys selling bootleg DVDs and said (translated),&#8221;Those fucking Albanians &#8211; they&#8217;re taking over.&#8221; I said,&#8221;Huh? Which one?&#8221; He looked at me like I was blind and said,&#8221;THAT one.&#8221; And I still couldn&#8217;t figure out who he was pointing to &#8211; they were all white-ish, dressed the same way, selling the same stuff, and we couldn&#8217;t hear whatever language they were each speaking.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the kicker &#8211; this guy and I had lived together in Los Angeles for a year prior to that, and I don&#8217;t mean lily-white OC or even Tarzana, I mean down on the ground LA. Of course there&#8217;s racial and economic segregation, but you can find street meat in the Garment District from at least five different continents, and before the gangs took over Venice Beach it was a mecca of mostly naked multiculturalism&#8230; anyway, I had NEVER heard this guy say anything even remotely racist. </p>
<p>As soon as he hit his home turf, it was damn the immigrant Albanians.</p>
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		<title>By: IludiumPhosdex</title>
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		<dc:creator>IludiumPhosdex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many of you recall &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Stan Freberg Show&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, which aired on CBS Radio as summer replacement for &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Best of [Jack] Benny&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; in the summer of 1957?

From time to time, Freberg would use a running gag as referred to foreigners on the show as being (in his words) &lt;a href=&quot;http://exaggerator.blogdrive.com/archive/507.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Swiss--that way, we don&#039;t offend anybody.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

Could such be a possible solution, or is it liable to backfire on the Swiss people and nation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many of you recall <b><i>The Stan Freberg Show</i></b>, which aired on CBS Radio as summer replacement for <b><i>The Best of [Jack] Benny</i></b> in the summer of 1957?</p>
<p>From time to time, Freberg would use a running gag as referred to foreigners on the show as being (in his words) <a href="http://exaggerator.blogdrive.com/archive/507.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Swiss&#8211;that way, we don&#8217;t offend anybody.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Could such be a possible solution, or is it liable to backfire on the Swiss people and nation?</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/10/obama-and-racism-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-42487</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...the mainland of continental Europe is, IMO, much more racist than the UK.  

The UK has racist elements and certain regions are without doubt more anti the &quot;other&quot;.  We know about these areas because the people (often working class white poor) are more vocal.  The truly insular ones are silent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;the mainland of continental Europe is, IMO, much more racist than the UK.  </p>
<p>The UK has racist elements and certain regions are without doubt more anti the &#8220;other&#8221;.  We know about these areas because the people (often working class white poor) are more vocal.  The truly insular ones are silent.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/10/obama-and-racism-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-42486</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The exec wasn&#039;t UK, no, but as for the distribution of the ad, I couldn&#039;t say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The exec wasn&#8217;t UK, no, but as for the distribution of the ad, I couldn&#8217;t say.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/10/obama-and-racism-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-42483</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The European executive who watched the ad said that it had to be changed because it had a fatal flaw - one of the actors was black, and no-one would buy the product from a black man.&quot;

I doubt the UK was included.  Black sells as well as white here, sometimes better just ask this chap:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uEVjbosMqFM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The European executive who watched the ad said that it had to be changed because it had a fatal flaw &#8211; one of the actors was black, and no-one would buy the product from a black man.&#8221;</p>
<p>I doubt the UK was included.  Black sells as well as white here, sometimes better just ask this chap:</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uEVjbosMqFM" rel="nofollow">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uEVjbosMqFM</a></p>
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		<title>By: www.buzzflash.net</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/06/10/obama-and-racism-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-42481</link>
		<dc:creator>www.buzzflash.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Obama and racism around the world...&lt;/strong&gt;

Obama&#039;s candidacy, and possible Presidency, will force the world to confront racism in their own societies, but there will be times when global racism will confront Obama instead.  We&#039;ll be watching to see which societies need a bright light shined i...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Obama and racism around the world&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s candidacy, and possible Presidency, will force the world to confront racism in their own societies, but there will be times when global racism will confront Obama instead.  We&#8217;ll be watching to see which societies need a bright light shined i&#8230;</p>
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