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	<title>Comments on: TunesDay: Can music violate the Geneva Conventions (or the 8th Amendment)?</title>
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		<title>By: Elijah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elijah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While i think the incredibly catchy/annoying melodies idea is great, wouldn&#039;t it be better to subject them to something more...noisy?  Say some ridiculous Scandinavian ultra br00tal death metal or something.  As much as Its a small world after all would make me want to rip my ears off, i think the screamo would be much worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While i think the incredibly catchy/annoying melodies idea is great, wouldn&#8217;t it be better to subject them to something more&#8230;noisy?  Say some ridiculous Scandinavian ultra br00tal death metal or something.  As much as Its a small world after all would make me want to rip my ears off, i think the screamo would be much worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrissy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrissy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a song missing, Crash Test Dummies &quot;Mmm mmm mmm mmm&quot;.

Put that song in repetition and expect a mass suicide.

&quot;Oooonce there was this kiiiiiiiid whooooooooo
Got into an accident and couldn&#039;t come to schoooooooool
But wheeeeeeeen he finally caaaame baaaack
His har had turned from black into briiiiight whiiiiiite
He said that it was from when
The cars had smashed him soooooooo haaaaaaaard&quot;

Now, that was painful to read, wasn&#039;t it?  Imagine it on repeat for 5 days nonstop.  That&#039;s mental torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a song missing, Crash Test Dummies &#8220;Mmm mmm mmm mmm&#8221;.</p>
<p>Put that song in repetition and expect a mass suicide.</p>
<p>&#8220;Oooonce there was this kiiiiiiiid whooooooooo<br />
Got into an accident and couldn&#8217;t come to schoooooooool<br />
But wheeeeeeeen he finally caaaame baaaack<br />
His har had turned from black into briiiiight whiiiiiite<br />
He said that it was from when<br />
The cars had smashed him soooooooo haaaaaaaard&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, that was painful to read, wasn&#8217;t it?  Imagine it on repeat for 5 days nonstop.  That&#8217;s mental torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamora Pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamora Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Slammy, I am thankin every god in every pantheon there is right now that you are not in charge of interrogations anywhere.  Dude, &quot;Someone&#039;s Knocking at the Door&quot; + &quot;Muskrat Love&quot; + &quot;Achy Breaky Heart&quot; + &quot;Copacabana&quot;?  You are in defiance of the Geneva Conventions and should be prosecuted at Den Hague.  Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Slammy, I am thankin every god in every pantheon there is right now that you are not in charge of interrogations anywhere.  Dude, &#8220;Someone&#8217;s Knocking at the Door&#8221; + &#8220;Muskrat Love&#8221; + &#8220;Achy Breaky Heart&#8221; + &#8220;Copacabana&#8221;?  You are in defiance of the Geneva Conventions and should be prosecuted at Den Hague.  Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lovejoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lovejoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who Stole The Ding-Dong, Who Stole The Bell? by Liberace and his brother. Alice in Wonderland, by Neil Sedaka. The Little White Cloud That Cried, by Johnny Ray. Puppy Love, by whatever kid sang it. Mr. Sandman. Ballin&#039; The Jack, by Guy Lombardo. The list could be almost infinite...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who Stole The Ding-Dong, Who Stole The Bell? by Liberace and his brother. Alice in Wonderland, by Neil Sedaka. The Little White Cloud That Cried, by Johnny Ray. Puppy Love, by whatever kid sang it. Mr. Sandman. Ballin&#8217; The Jack, by Guy Lombardo. The list could be almost infinite&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can personally attest to the ability of &lt;i&gt;Mambo #5&lt;/i&gt; to destroy the will to even live.  Back in the mid/late 90&#039;s, when Western pop culture was so new and all to Russians, there was something like a five month stretch where every store, every minibus, every bar...really everywhere...was playing that damned song.  I never did find just the right rusty instrument for puncturing my own eardrums...but i thought about it.

&lt;i&gt;Binge and Purge&lt;/i&gt; by Clutch should be on any torture mix tape.  Though i wouldn&#039;t make it through the first playing of  &lt;i&gt;American Pie&lt;/i&gt; before i said whatever was wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can personally attest to the ability of <i>Mambo #5</i> to destroy the will to even live.  Back in the mid/late 90&#8217;s, when Western pop culture was so new and all to Russians, there was something like a five month stretch where every store, every minibus, every bar&#8230;really everywhere&#8230;was playing that damned song.  I never did find just the right rusty instrument for puncturing my own eardrums&#8230;but i thought about it.</p>
<p><i>Binge and Purge</i> by Clutch should be on any torture mix tape.  Though i wouldn&#8217;t make it through the first playing of  <i>American Pie</i> before i said whatever was wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: libraripagan</title>
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		<dc:creator>libraripagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of musical torture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhHAojVyeG0 
 
Medieval musical torture!  (In French w/ subtitles)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of musical torture: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhHAojVyeG0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhHAojVyeG0</a> </p>
<p>Medieval musical torture!  (In French w/ subtitles)</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DMB or Creed!   Enough said.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael "Ubertramp" Pecaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael "Ubertramp" Pecaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes sense to me.  :)  I think Otep and Marylin Manson might find it a bit ironic, though.  Hehehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes sense to me.  <img src='http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I think Otep and Marylin Manson might find it a bit ironic, though.  Hehehe.</p>
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		<title>By: Former PSYOP Solder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Former PSYOP Solder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Music and sounds have always been tools in the PSYOP arsenal. They&#039;re used in deception, force multiplication, diversion, and other operations. 

In interrogation and detainee situations, music and sounds are used to demoralize and disorient captives, or to &quot;break&quot; a captive&#039;s resistance to cooperation. Additionally, music and sounds work well to block out potentially unique background sounds that could provide a captive with knowledge of his current location, or other outside sounds that might provide information that we would rather the captive didn&#039;t have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Music and sounds have always been tools in the PSYOP arsenal. They&#8217;re used in deception, force multiplication, diversion, and other operations. </p>
<p>In interrogation and detainee situations, music and sounds are used to demoralize and disorient captives, or to &#8220;break&#8221; a captive&#8217;s resistance to cooperation. Additionally, music and sounds work well to block out potentially unique background sounds that could provide a captive with knowledge of his current location, or other outside sounds that might provide information that we would rather the captive didn&#8217;t have.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael "Ubertramp" Pecaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael "Ubertramp" Pecaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It probably wouldn&#039;t work on terrorists, but if I was subjected to Pat Boone&#039;s &quot;In a Metal Mood: No More Mr. Nice Guy,&quot; I&#039;d lose it.  A swingin Crazy Train just ain&#039;t right.

Here&#039;s a few more &quot;artists&quot; to add to your list Twisted Sister, Boy George, Villi Manilli, and who ever sings that damned Umbru-ella song thats on the charts now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It probably wouldn&#8217;t work on terrorists, but if I was subjected to Pat Boone&#8217;s &#8220;In a Metal Mood: No More Mr. Nice Guy,&#8221; I&#8217;d lose it.  A swingin Crazy Train just ain&#8217;t right.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a few more &#8220;artists&#8221; to add to your list Twisted Sister, Boy George, Villi Manilli, and who ever sings that damned Umbru-ella song thats on the charts now.</p>
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		<title>By: Super Jesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Super Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that a Mariah and Celene duet would be a back breaker.  That&#039;s just not even fair.  

That said, Van Halen &quot;Panama&quot; deserves a spot on the easy listening list there.  I want to see Bush and Cheney after 48 hours of listening to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that a Mariah and Celene duet would be a back breaker.  That&#8217;s just not even fair.  </p>
<p>That said, Van Halen &#8220;Panama&#8221; deserves a spot on the easy listening list there.  I want to see Bush and Cheney after 48 hours of listening to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LP: I doubt that divas like that would consent to a duet. 

Meanwhile here&#039;s quote I referrred to by one Fontleroy at Buzzflash.net:
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;What is truly horrifying is the list of SUGGESTED songs for torture. How can this be? If you are blogging about an atrocity and then you turn around, tongue in check and list twice as many more songs. WTF?&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LP: I doubt that divas like that would consent to a duet. </p>
<p>Meanwhile here&#8217;s quote I referrred to by one Fontleroy at Buzzflash.net:</p>
<blockquote><p>What is truly horrifying is the list of SUGGESTED songs for torture. How can this be? If you are blogging about an atrocity and then you turn around, tongue in check and list twice as many more songs. WTF?</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: libraripagan</title>
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		<dc:creator>libraripagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, LibrariPagan, Celene Dion will induce madness. But if weâ€™re talking about a full psychic split, Mariah Careyâ€™s your lady&quot;

Point taken... but can you imagine if they ever do a duet?

Topping the charts (of mental anguish)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, LibrariPagan, Celene Dion will induce madness. But if weâ€™re talking about a full psychic split, Mariah Careyâ€™s your lady&#8221;</p>
<p>Point taken&#8230; but can you imagine if they ever do a duet?</p>
<p>Topping the charts (of mental anguish)!</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, LibrariPagan, Celene Dion will induce madness. But if we&#039;re talking about a full psychic split, Mariah Carey&#039;s your lady.

A commenter to this article on one of the social network sites took Dr. S. to task for even joking about this. Let me clear about this: Mariah Carey should be reserved for use on members of the Bush administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, LibrariPagan, Celene Dion will induce madness. But if we&#8217;re talking about a full psychic split, Mariah Carey&#8217;s your lady.</p>
<p>A commenter to this article on one of the social network sites took Dr. S. to task for even joking about this. Let me clear about this: Mariah Carey should be reserved for use on members of the Bush administration.</p>
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		<title>By: libraripagan</title>
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		<dc:creator>libraripagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that &amp; not ONE Celene Dion song on the list?  Her heart might go on... but my mind sure wouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that &amp; not ONE Celene Dion song on the list?  Her heart might go on&#8230; but my mind sure wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3PV34CzYWM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3PV34CzYWM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3PV34CzYWM</a></p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the (Jefferson?) Starship all time classic &quot;We Built this City on Rock and Roll?&quot;
And where&#039;s the Toby Kieth?
I also think these two should be included:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmIObmv2t6M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the (Jefferson?) Starship all time classic &#8220;We Built this City on Rock and Roll?&#8221;<br />
And where&#8217;s the Toby Kieth?<br />
I also think these two should be included:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmIObmv2t6M" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmIObmv2t6M</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff McIntire-Strasburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff McIntire-Strasburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;ve Never Been to Me&quot; -- Charlene... I get a little nauseated just typing the title</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve Never Been to Me&#8221; &#8212; Charlene&#8230; I get a little nauseated just typing the title</p>
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		<title>By: Wild Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wild Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great playlist and suggestions. 
More suggestions:

The Trashmen - Surfin&#039; Bird
Bryan Hyland - Itsy Bitsy Yellow Polka Dot Bikini
Cookie Monster - C Is For Cookie
And ANYTHING sung by Wing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great playlist and suggestions.<br />
More suggestions:</p>
<p>The Trashmen &#8211; Surfin&#8217; Bird<br />
Bryan Hyland &#8211; Itsy Bitsy Yellow Polka Dot Bikini<br />
Cookie Monster &#8211; C Is For Cookie<br />
And ANYTHING sung by Wing</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of initiating a &quot;song that causes pain&quot; war, I&#039;d suggest a couple of additions for your list:

&quot;Feelings&quot; - Morris Alpert
&quot;The Pina Colada Song&quot; - Rupert Holmes

You know, now that I think about it, one could simply play old episodes of Casey Kasem&#039;s show...that should do it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of initiating a &#8220;song that causes pain&#8221; war, I&#8217;d suggest a couple of additions for your list:</p>
<p>&#8220;Feelings&#8221; &#8211; Morris Alpert<br />
&#8220;The Pina Colada Song&#8221; &#8211; Rupert Holmes</p>
<p>You know, now that I think about it, one could simply play old episodes of Casey Kasem&#8217;s show&#8230;that should do it&#8230;.</p>
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