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	<title>Comments on: Why I&#8217;ve pressed my daughter to learn Spanish</title>
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	<description>Think.  It ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: JS OBrien</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/07/09/why-ive-pressed-my-daughter-to-learn-spanish/comment-page-1/#comment-47350</link>
		<dc:creator>JS OBrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff, Fraud guy.  Maybe the phone is different, and France (and French-speaking Belgium) are certainly different ;-).    My own story from Brussels is of being in a high-level meeting for a multi-national company with representatives from the US, Belgium, France, Germany, Norway, Thailand, and about 10 other countries/languages.  We&#039;re moving along in English when one of the Belgian guys raises his hand and says, &quot;I don&#039;t understand why, when we&#039;re meeting here in Brussels where we speak French, this meeting isn&#039;t being held in French?&quot;

I was stunned.  The guy running the meeting, a dour, no-nonsense Norwegian, replied, &quot;Maybe it&#039;s because the official management language of the company is English, everyone in the room speaks English, but I and pretty much everyone else in the room DON&#039;T speak French!!!&quot;

Interestingly, I&#039;ve heard other Europeans complain that the French won&#039;t speak English to them.  A Swede I know complained about this some months ago, saying &quot;What educated person in the world today doesn&#039;t speak English?&quot;

Thanks for the input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff, Fraud guy.  Maybe the phone is different, and France (and French-speaking Belgium) are certainly different <img src='http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .    My own story from Brussels is of being in a high-level meeting for a multi-national company with representatives from the US, Belgium, France, Germany, Norway, Thailand, and about 10 other countries/languages.  We&#8217;re moving along in English when one of the Belgian guys raises his hand and says, &#8220;I don&#8217;t understand why, when we&#8217;re meeting here in Brussels where we speak French, this meeting isn&#8217;t being held in French?&#8221;</p>
<p>I was stunned.  The guy running the meeting, a dour, no-nonsense Norwegian, replied, &#8220;Maybe it&#8217;s because the official management language of the company is English, everyone in the room speaks English, but I and pretty much everyone else in the room DON&#8217;T speak French!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Interestingly, I&#8217;ve heard other Europeans complain that the French won&#8217;t speak English to them.  A Swede I know complained about this some months ago, saying &#8220;What educated person in the world today doesn&#8217;t speak English?&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the input.</p>
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		<title>By: Fraud Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/07/09/why-ive-pressed-my-daughter-to-learn-spanish/comment-page-1/#comment-47332</link>
		<dc:creator>Fraud Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to say that from my experience in attempting to deal with banks overseas, that trying to communicate in English is not the best first choice.

I called a bank in France three times and got transferred from person to person, all of whom told me me in halting English that they would transfer me to someone who spoke English.  On my fourth call, I pulled out my &quot;Est ce-qu&#039;il y a un person qui parle Anglais?&quot; [sic](a little rusty) and the operator whom I had spoken to twice before suddenly spoke fluent English, and I was immediately transferred to a person in the correct department who also was fluent in English.

I repeated this experience with Spanish and German banks, though I have to admit not with all of them.  Sometimes, they want us to try....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to say that from my experience in attempting to deal with banks overseas, that trying to communicate in English is not the best first choice.</p>
<p>I called a bank in France three times and got transferred from person to person, all of whom told me me in halting English that they would transfer me to someone who spoke English.  On my fourth call, I pulled out my &#8220;Est ce-qu&#8217;il y a un person qui parle Anglais?&#8221; [sic](a little rusty) and the operator whom I had spoken to twice before suddenly spoke fluent English, and I was immediately transferred to a person in the correct department who also was fluent in English.</p>
<p>I repeated this experience with Spanish and German banks, though I have to admit not with all of them.  Sometimes, they want us to try&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/07/09/why-ive-pressed-my-daughter-to-learn-spanish/comment-page-1/#comment-47151</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been studying Spanish and Japanese at Edufire.com. It&#039;s pretty cool, you can set up a tutoring lesson with someone via a webcam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been studying Spanish and Japanese at Edufire.com. It&#8217;s pretty cool, you can set up a tutoring lesson with someone via a webcam.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone ought to learn another language - useful or not.  Knowing the words and grammar of another culture does great things for your brain.  It helps you know your own language better and also awakens you to the idea that other folks don&#039;t see things the same way we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone ought to learn another language &#8211; useful or not.  Knowing the words and grammar of another culture does great things for your brain.  It helps you know your own language better and also awakens you to the idea that other folks don&#8217;t see things the same way we do.</p>
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		<title>By: Euphrosyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euphrosyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prego.  And de nada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prego.  And de nada.</p>
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		<title>By: JS OBrien</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/07/09/why-ive-pressed-my-daughter-to-learn-spanish/comment-page-1/#comment-46939</link>
		<dc:creator>JS OBrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fikshun:

You&#039;re a very funny person.  And I&#039;ve heard the same about the way knowing a foreign language provides a different framework from which to see the world.  Unfortunately, I have no firsthand experience with that because I&#039;m not fluent in any language whatsoever.

Euphrosyne:

Thanks for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fikshun:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a very funny person.  And I&#8217;ve heard the same about the way knowing a foreign language provides a different framework from which to see the world.  Unfortunately, I have no firsthand experience with that because I&#8217;m not fluent in any language whatsoever.</p>
<p>Euphrosyne:</p>
<p>Thanks for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Euphrosyne</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/07/09/why-ive-pressed-my-daughter-to-learn-spanish/comment-page-1/#comment-46876</link>
		<dc:creator>Euphrosyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do realize, JS, that your ideas about her linguistic education mean absolutely nothing? It all comes down to the first non-English speaker your daughter shacks up with... there&#039;s her second language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do realize, JS, that your ideas about her linguistic education mean absolutely nothing? It all comes down to the first non-English speaker your daughter shacks up with&#8230; there&#8217;s her second language.</p>
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		<title>By: fikshun</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/07/09/why-ive-pressed-my-daughter-to-learn-spanish/comment-page-1/#comment-46872</link>
		<dc:creator>fikshun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;West Virginian Southern&quot;?  Is that written in pictograms or something?  &gt;8P

I once stopped at a Hardees in West Virginia.  On the door was a sign that read &quot;If you cannot read, picture menus are available upon request&quot;.  I was going to bring it up with the staff inside, but I was genuinely afraid they weren&#039;t going to see the absurdity of the post.

While learning a foreign language is handy for speaking to others in their native tongue, my favorite aspect is that it forces you to think a bit differently.  You don&#039;t tend to notice the constraints that English puts on the way you think until you see it from the outside. 

Given the low status that Americans enjoy in other countries, perhaps we&#039;d be better off learning how to properly use profanity in 30 different languages, rather than attempting to become fluent in one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;West Virginian Southern&#8221;?  Is that written in pictograms or something?  &gt;8P</p>
<p>I once stopped at a Hardees in West Virginia.  On the door was a sign that read &#8220;If you cannot read, picture menus are available upon request&#8221;.  I was going to bring it up with the staff inside, but I was genuinely afraid they weren&#8217;t going to see the absurdity of the post.</p>
<p>While learning a foreign language is handy for speaking to others in their native tongue, my favorite aspect is that it forces you to think a bit differently.  You don&#8217;t tend to notice the constraints that English puts on the way you think until you see it from the outside. </p>
<p>Given the low status that Americans enjoy in other countries, perhaps we&#8217;d be better off learning how to properly use profanity in 30 different languages, rather than attempting to become fluent in one.</p>
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		<title>By: JS OBrien</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/07/09/why-ive-pressed-my-daughter-to-learn-spanish/comment-page-1/#comment-46867</link>
		<dc:creator>JS OBrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She does, indeed.  West Virginian Southern (from a teacher she had).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She does, indeed.  West Virginian Southern (from a teacher she had).</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/07/09/why-ive-pressed-my-daughter-to-learn-spanish/comment-page-1/#comment-46866</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does she speak Southern?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does she speak Southern?</p>
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