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	<title>Comments on: ArtSunday: design, meaning, and more about the damn Obama cartoon</title>
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	<description>Think.  It ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure why it matters after all it is just a cartoon and who takes those serious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why it matters after all it is just a cartoon and who takes those serious?</p>
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		<title>By: Euphrosyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euphrosyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be. The cartoon still sucks, though.</description>
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		<title>By: Ubertramp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ubertramp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I curious.  Maybe I&#039;m just a cynical SOB, but could it just be that the editor had an ulterior motive and just tried to couch it, however badly, in a satirical format?  Could it be that they really just wanted to bring all these stupid ideas about Obama to the forefront and FORCE the conversations we&#039;re having now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I curious.  Maybe I&#8217;m just a cynical SOB, but could it just be that the editor had an ulterior motive and just tried to couch it, however badly, in a satirical format?  Could it be that they really just wanted to bring all these stupid ideas about Obama to the forefront and FORCE the conversations we&#8217;re having now?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my dark, demented past I was an editorial-page editor. The initial joy of the job was selecting editorial cartoons. It&#039;s an uncommon art married to a common craft â€” drawing. Over time, I learned that the best (meaning hardest-hitting) political cartoonists had two qualities:

-- using as little ink as possible (meaning, only drawing the line that means the most)
-- being as independent of caricature as possible.

The best work, while using caricature, did not depend on it. Your critic of the Obama cartoon is spot on target -- it overdoes caricature, apparently for its own sake. In doing so, whatever point or moral coda is buried.

Tom Toles, the great Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist, long ago told me: &quot;Hey, either it works or it doesn&#039;t.&quot; For Mr. Toles, his cartoons &quot;work&quot; time after time after time. That&#039;s because he has something to say -- the Obama cartoon doesn&#039;t. Hence the lengthy critiques of the cartoon that do little to unravel its mysterious meaning.

Nice work, E. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my dark, demented past I was an editorial-page editor. The initial joy of the job was selecting editorial cartoons. It&#8217;s an uncommon art married to a common craft â€” drawing. Over time, I learned that the best (meaning hardest-hitting) political cartoonists had two qualities:</p>
<p>&#8211; using as little ink as possible (meaning, only drawing the line that means the most)<br />
&#8211; being as independent of caricature as possible.</p>
<p>The best work, while using caricature, did not depend on it. Your critic of the Obama cartoon is spot on target &#8212; it overdoes caricature, apparently for its own sake. In doing so, whatever point or moral coda is buried.</p>
<p>Tom Toles, the great Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist, long ago told me: &#8220;Hey, either it works or it doesn&#8217;t.&#8221; For Mr. Toles, his cartoons &#8220;work&#8221; time after time after time. That&#8217;s because he has something to say &#8212; the Obama cartoon doesn&#8217;t. Hence the lengthy critiques of the cartoon that do little to unravel its mysterious meaning.</p>
<p>Nice work, E. Thanks.</p>
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