Comments on: DNC – Tent State, the people (1 of 3) http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/08/28/dnc-tent-state-the-people/ Think. It ain't illegal yet... Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:48:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jack Shaftoe » Blog Archive » Tent State http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/08/28/dnc-tent-state-the-people/comment-page-1/#comment-58699 Jack Shaftoe » Blog Archive » Tent State Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:58:42 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=3459#comment-58699 [...] And now I’m so going to bed. [...] [...] And now I’m so going to bed. [...]

]]> By: RSandford http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/08/28/dnc-tent-state-the-people/comment-page-1/#comment-52187 RSandford Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:15:42 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=3459#comment-52187 This is RSandford, to my critic I offer my thanks for your anger at Bush, but if anger at Bush and the multi-administration war machine of this country is a sign of being grown up, then I've been grown for decades, thank you. My point was not that we shouldn't protest, but that we shouldn't look and act like morons doing it. A protest is to get people's attention and to change their views. Because of the nature of protest what people see when you get their attention is critical. It has to be something positive, dignified and, from the stand point of leadership, more credible than a circus if you want citizens to take you seriously. This is RSandford, to my critic I offer my thanks for your anger at Bush, but if anger at Bush and the multi-administration war machine of this country is a sign of being grown up, then I’ve been grown for decades, thank you. My point was not that we shouldn’t protest, but that we shouldn’t look and act like morons doing it. A protest is to get people’s attention and to change their views. Because of the nature of protest what people see when you get their attention is critical. It has to be something positive, dignified and, from the stand point of leadership, more credible than a circus if you want citizens to take you seriously.

]]> By: Ubertramp http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/08/28/dnc-tent-state-the-people/comment-page-1/#comment-52135 Ubertramp Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:12:32 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=3459#comment-52135 Jack, you are kickin ass. Seriously. Like I said, I wish I was there with ya helpin out. I'd have filled up about 20 4GB flash cards by now. Keep it up. And thanks. As one out here in southern cal, this stuff goes a long way towards giving me a real feel of what's going on out there. Jack, you are kickin ass. Seriously. Like I said, I wish I was there with ya helpin out. I’d have filled up about 20 4GB flash cards by now. Keep it up. And thanks. As one out here in southern cal, this stuff goes a long way towards giving me a real feel of what’s going on out there.

]]> By: Jack Shaftoe http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/08/28/dnc-tent-state-the-people/comment-page-1/#comment-52124 Jack Shaftoe Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:35:17 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=3459#comment-52124 j-m... we're doing our best here. I'm one photographer trying to work with eight writers, we're not getting paid and I had to be across town before the (unplanned) march concluded. I would have loved to have been able to shoot those images that you mentioned, that would have been a fantastic conclusion to this segment! j-m… we’re doing our best here. I’m one photographer trying to work with eight writers, we’re not getting paid and I had to be across town before the (unplanned) march concluded. I would have loved to have been able to shoot those images that you mentioned, that would have been a fantastic conclusion to this segment!

]]> By: j-m http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/08/28/dnc-tent-state-the-people/comment-page-1/#comment-52099 j-m Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:00:04 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=3459#comment-52099 First of all, I am a veteran, I am a peacemaker, a liberal, a progressive and a proud socialist-democrat. Second, where are the pictures of Obama's and Pelosi's staff members coming out to the protest and demanding that the Police stand back? If you are going to report the events, then show all the event and not just one side. If all those outside the DNC were inside the DNC and supporting Kucinich, Barbara Lee, and other progressives, then we would not have the mess we have. Get real! Running away from a Party (instead of standing firm and making it progressive) does nothing but allow the conservaturds to march in and take it over. Learn from history! I support my veteran buddies and the troops by encouraging them to get behind Obama and MAKE PROGRESSIVE CHANGES in our Government! Unless you have watched C-SPAN, none of you saw the progressive speeches made on the DNC floor, and that is pathetic! First of all, I am a veteran, I am a peacemaker, a liberal, a progressive and a proud socialist-democrat. Second, where are the pictures of Obama’s and Pelosi’s staff members coming out to the protest and demanding that the Police stand back? If you are going to report the events, then show all the event and not just one side. If all those outside the DNC were inside the DNC and supporting Kucinich, Barbara Lee, and other progressives, then we would not have the mess we have. Get real! Running away from a Party (instead of standing firm and making it progressive) does nothing but allow the conservaturds to march in and take it over. Learn from history! I support my veteran buddies and the troops by encouraging them to get behind Obama and MAKE PROGRESSIVE CHANGES in our Government! Unless you have watched C-SPAN, none of you saw the progressive speeches made on the DNC floor, and that is pathetic!

]]> By: not buying it sanford http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/08/28/dnc-tent-state-the-people/comment-page-1/#comment-52095 not buying it sanford Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:43:37 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=3459#comment-52095 Maybe 'they' just want you to believe that. I see a lot of normal middle class people who are just plain mad!!! Or perhaps the agent provocateurs are just busy this year with so many protests as they were in Canada at Monticello Que. They like to wear masks for obvious reasons. Maybe these people love what freedom really means even if you think Freedom must be a "look" you wear. If you're not angry that BUSH has torn the constitution to shreds, maybe you need to grow up! Maybe ‘they’ just want you to believe that. I see a lot of normal middle class people who are just plain mad!!! Or perhaps the agent provocateurs are just busy this year with so many protests as they were in Canada at Monticello Que. They like to wear masks for obvious reasons. Maybe these people love what freedom really means even if you think Freedom must be a “look” you wear. If you’re not angry that BUSH has torn the constitution to shreds, maybe you need to grow up!

]]> By: RSandford http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/08/28/dnc-tent-state-the-people/comment-page-1/#comment-52092 RSandford Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:26:00 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=3459#comment-52092 I was at Chicago with the Yippies and in the middle of those protest, I've been to many others, some that turned violent, so that did not, so that were effective statements and some that were not, but looking at photos and seeing protests today they mostly just leave me flat. Getting out there in your colored hair and ripped jeans and painted faces just sends the message to most ordinary people that the peace movement is a joke, full of unstable types that can't grow up. The trouble is that the protest movement has degenerated into a party, a cynical joke. What is needed now is more of what the Civil Rights movement had - nobility, solemnity and respect for what is decent and good in men. OK, paint your face and have your fun, but know that what you create is little more than an ad for the opposition. I was at Chicago with the Yippies and in the middle of those protest, I’ve been to many others, some that turned violent, so that did not, so that were effective statements and some that were not, but looking at photos and seeing protests today they mostly just leave me flat. Getting out there in your colored hair and ripped jeans and painted faces just sends the message to most ordinary people that the peace movement is a joke, full of unstable types that can’t grow up. The trouble is that the protest movement has degenerated into a party, a cynical joke. What is needed now is more of what the Civil Rights movement had – nobility, solemnity and respect for what is decent and good in men. OK, paint your face and have your fun, but know that what you create is little more than an ad for the opposition.

]]> By: J http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/08/28/dnc-tent-state-the-people/comment-page-1/#comment-52090 J Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:15:09 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=3459#comment-52090 Is civil war looming within the Democratic party? Read here: http://leftsolutions.wordpress.com/ Is civil war looming within the Democratic party? Read here:

http://leftsolutions.wordpress.com/

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