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		<title>By: Ike coverage: index page &#124; Scholars and Rogues</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/09/12/25-of-us-oil-refining-in-ikes-path/comment-page-1/#comment-96184</link>
		<dc:creator>Ike coverage: index page &#124; Scholars and Rogues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 25% of US oil refining in Ike’s path [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/09/12/25-of-us-oil-refining-in-ikes-path/comment-page-1/#comment-52939</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Sunday night at 10PM, and gasoline contracts are trading at  $2.7696/gal, down $0.0872 with heavy trading at the NYMEX.  I&#039;m not surprised at all.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Sunday night at 10PM, and gasoline contracts are trading at  $2.7696/gal, down $0.0872 with heavy trading at the NYMEX.  I&#8217;m not surprised at all.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/09/12/25-of-us-oil-refining-in-ikes-path/comment-page-1/#comment-52904</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prices here had jumped less than a dime as of last night, but bet your sweet ass I filled up as soon as I left the office yesterday. I&#039;m afraid to think what it will be out there today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prices here had jumped less than a dime as of last night, but bet your sweet ass I filled up as soon as I left the office yesterday. I&#8217;m afraid to think what it will be out there today.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Booth</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/09/12/25-of-us-oil-refining-in-ikes-path/comment-page-1/#comment-52902</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gas is at $5.35 a gallon here in southside VA/northern NC this morning, Brian. It was $3.45 yesterday afternoon. I realize that the damage to refineries is a serious thing - but it&#039;s not stopping rampant gouging already.

Good old disaster capitalism rears its ruthless heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gas is at $5.35 a gallon here in southside VA/northern NC this morning, Brian. It was $3.45 yesterday afternoon. I realize that the damage to refineries is a serious thing &#8211; but it&#8217;s not stopping rampant gouging already.</p>
<p>Good old disaster capitalism rears its ruthless heads.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/09/12/25-of-us-oil-refining-in-ikes-path/comment-page-1/#comment-52878</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080912/ts_alt_afp/usweatherstormoilsector&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another one&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Nationwide, I believe prices will go up 20 cents a gallon (3.78 liters), at least for a month,&quot; Lipow said. (Ed. Note: Lipow is Texas-based oil industry expert Andy Lipow)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; Fears about what damages Ike could wreak were heightened by concerns about the aging refineries, some of which have been operating for more than 75 years.

The threat to the refinery industry along the Gulf coast comes as gasoline stockpiles -- at 187.9 million barrels on August 5 -- are below the average level for this time of year, the US Department of Energy said Wednesday.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080912/ts_alt_afp/usweatherstormoilsector" rel="nofollow">Another one</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Nationwide, I believe prices will go up 20 cents a gallon (3.78 liters), at least for a month,&#8221; Lipow said. (Ed. Note: Lipow is Texas-based oil industry expert Andy Lipow)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p> Fears about what damages Ike could wreak were heightened by concerns about the aging refineries, some of which have been operating for more than 75 years.</p>
<p>The threat to the refinery industry along the Gulf coast comes as gasoline stockpiles &#8212; at 187.9 million barrels on August 5 &#8212; are below the average level for this time of year, the US Department of Energy said Wednesday.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/09/12/25-of-us-oil-refining-in-ikes-path/comment-page-1/#comment-52877</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=a7v8oWAwoNIs&amp;refer=home&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bloomberg&lt;/a&gt; had to say:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Planalytics&#039; Rouiller said Ike is similar to Hurricane Alicia in 1983.

``It took them over a year to get their feet on the ground again,&#039;&#039; he said. ``The refineries were down for months. Basically, the whole infrastructure around the Houston metropolitan area was devastated.&#039;&#039;

Gasoline supplies across the southern and eastern U.S. may be disrupted by the storm, Rouiller said.

``We could have this capability lost for a long period of time,&#039;&#039; he said. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Gasoline shortages may occur across the southern U.S. up to Washington because of the closures caused by Hurricane Gustav and now Ike, Kevin Kolevar, assistant secretary for electricity delivery and energy reliability at the U.S. Department of Energy, said on a conference call.

``We expect to see constrained supplies of refined products,&#039;&#039; he said. ``The administration will utilize every tool at our disposal to lessen the likelihood of limited fuel supplies,&#039;&#039; including tapping the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Not that tapping the SPR will do any good, though, if the problem is refining rather than Gulf oil production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=a7v8oWAwoNIs&#038;refer=home" rel="nofollow">Bloomberg</a> had to say:</p>
<blockquote><p>Planalytics&#8217; Rouiller said Ike is similar to Hurricane Alicia in 1983.</p>
<p>&#8220;It took them over a year to get their feet on the ground again,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The refineries were down for months. Basically, the whole infrastructure around the Houston metropolitan area was devastated.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gasoline supplies across the southern and eastern U.S. may be disrupted by the storm, Rouiller said.</p>
<p>&#8220;We could have this capability lost for a long period of time,&#8221; he said. </p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Gasoline shortages may occur across the southern U.S. up to Washington because of the closures caused by Hurricane Gustav and now Ike, Kevin Kolevar, assistant secretary for electricity delivery and energy reliability at the U.S. Department of Energy, said on a conference call.</p>
<p>&#8220;We expect to see constrained supplies of refined products,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The administration will utilize every tool at our disposal to lessen the likelihood of limited fuel supplies,&#8221; including tapping the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. </p></blockquote>
<p>Not that tapping the SPR will do any good, though, if the problem is refining rather than Gulf oil production.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/09/12/25-of-us-oil-refining-in-ikes-path/comment-page-1/#comment-52867</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worst case would be if all of them were damaged sufficiently that it takes something like 6-8 weeks to repair them:  Immediate effects (ie over the next week or so) will be pretty minor - I read that there&#039;s something like 6 weeks of refined gasoline available at all times.  &quot;Pretty minor&quot; means $5.00 gas, though.  After a couple of weeks, however, a 25% reduction in gas production would force the government to step in a la the 1970s and ration gasoline until the refineries were back on line, or prices would skyrocket until the price controlled the demand enough that people cut consumption back voluntarily by 25%.  I don&#039;t know enough about the market to say what that price would be, but it&#039;s probably somewhere between $6 and $10 per gallon.  Rationing/high prices would last until all the refineries were back on line or until the US could import enough gasoline from other countries.

Alternatively, the US is a net gasoline exporter, so the Feds could cancel the export contracts and cause the exporters massive losses but mitigate some of the other effects like rationing and price hikes.

Really, though, these are logical guesses on my part - I&#039;m not an expert on gasoline and oil supply and demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worst case would be if all of them were damaged sufficiently that it takes something like 6-8 weeks to repair them:  Immediate effects (ie over the next week or so) will be pretty minor &#8211; I read that there&#8217;s something like 6 weeks of refined gasoline available at all times.  &#8220;Pretty minor&#8221; means $5.00 gas, though.  After a couple of weeks, however, a 25% reduction in gas production would force the government to step in a la the 1970s and ration gasoline until the refineries were back on line, or prices would skyrocket until the price controlled the demand enough that people cut consumption back voluntarily by 25%.  I don&#8217;t know enough about the market to say what that price would be, but it&#8217;s probably somewhere between $6 and $10 per gallon.  Rationing/high prices would last until all the refineries were back on line or until the US could import enough gasoline from other countries.</p>
<p>Alternatively, the US is a net gasoline exporter, so the Feds could cancel the export contracts and cause the exporters massive losses but mitigate some of the other effects like rationing and price hikes.</p>
<p>Really, though, these are logical guesses on my part &#8211; I&#8217;m not an expert on gasoline and oil supply and demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Zandar</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/09/12/25-of-us-oil-refining-in-ikes-path/comment-page-1/#comment-52866</link>
		<dc:creator>Zandar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...what&#039;s the worst case scenario here, guys?  Strategic oil reserves won&#039;t mean squat here.  Are we talking localized/regional shortages?  $5 a gallon gas?  Both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;what&#8217;s the worst case scenario here, guys?  Strategic oil reserves won&#8217;t mean squat here.  Are we talking localized/regional shortages?  $5 a gallon gas?  Both?</p>
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