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	<title>Comments on: Brooks: GOP loses professionals to Democrats, including bankers</title>
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	<description>Think.  It ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Steve. 

Once upon a time, Bill Moyers asked Joseph Campbell what the fundamental problem with the Middle East was (or is as it hasn&#039;t been resolved). Campbell replied that both sides had mistaken the metaphor used to explain the underlying truth for the truth itself. I think that the same argument can be made regarding the American political system: we&#039;re all tangled up in metaphors to the point where we can&#039;t even see the truth that the metaphors are supposed to illustrate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Steve. </p>
<p>Once upon a time, Bill Moyers asked Joseph Campbell what the fundamental problem with the Middle East was (or is as it hasn&#8217;t been resolved). Campbell replied that both sides had mistaken the metaphor used to explain the underlying truth for the truth itself. I think that the same argument can be made regarding the American political system: we&#8217;re all tangled up in metaphors to the point where we can&#8217;t even see the truth that the metaphors are supposed to illustrate.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little disappointed there&#039;s no mention of Truthiness in there. Essentially, that&#039;s where the problem lies, is it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little disappointed there&#8217;s no mention of Truthiness in there. Essentially, that&#8217;s where the problem lies, is it not?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, and good post Lex. Personally, I love finding conservatives I can agree to disagree with. As a general rule, l prefer the company of sane men to madmen who think they&#039;re sane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, and good post Lex. Personally, I love finding conservatives I can agree to disagree with. As a general rule, l prefer the company of sane men to madmen who think they&#8217;re sane.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an important point. Buckley the Lesser has now made the same point. But it leads, i think, to an even deeper point. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with being &quot;conservative&quot;; in fact, there are many things that are right. It should also be noted that being &quot;liberal&quot; can also go horribly wrong. Simply: it isn&#039;t what you say but how you say it. Buckley the Greater could have an honest to goodness argument - a debate if you will - that might not change your mind but would, at least, force you to respect his point of view.

Loyal opposition is probably the philosophical cornerstone of American politics. The first half of that phrase is the important half, but it is the half disregarded. With it has gone honesty: honesty about the other and honesty about the self.

We are not in the straits we&#039;re in because the Republicans have been in power for eight years. Nor will our straits become significantly less dire by electing the Democrats. Our situation stems from things deeper than the perversions of &quot;liberal&quot; and &quot;conservative&quot; that we vote for. 

The &quot;other&quot; is a tried and true technique of totalitarianism: from untermenschen to wreckers to communists to terrorists (and many more in between). In most cases the Other is projected outward or on an easily persecuted minority. In America the Other is your neighbor with the Other candidate&#039;s yard sign.  He probably wants good schools for his children too and he probably prefers to drink clean water as well; he also probably disagrees on how to achieve those goals. But somewhere along the line disagreeing over how became more important than agreeing on the goals. Now he is only worthy of spittle choked vicarious tirades on internet comment threads. (And, more ominously, disturbing outbursts at presidential campaign rallies.)

Lincoln was right. The only thing capable of destroying America is America. And so our future lies in the hands of Americans...not Republicans, not Democrats, not even Naderites but Americans. It is time to remember that the Other is us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an important point. Buckley the Lesser has now made the same point. But it leads, i think, to an even deeper point. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with being &#8220;conservative&#8221;; in fact, there are many things that are right. It should also be noted that being &#8220;liberal&#8221; can also go horribly wrong. Simply: it isn&#8217;t what you say but how you say it. Buckley the Greater could have an honest to goodness argument &#8211; a debate if you will &#8211; that might not change your mind but would, at least, force you to respect his point of view.</p>
<p>Loyal opposition is probably the philosophical cornerstone of American politics. The first half of that phrase is the important half, but it is the half disregarded. With it has gone honesty: honesty about the other and honesty about the self.</p>
<p>We are not in the straits we&#8217;re in because the Republicans have been in power for eight years. Nor will our straits become significantly less dire by electing the Democrats. Our situation stems from things deeper than the perversions of &#8220;liberal&#8221; and &#8220;conservative&#8221; that we vote for. </p>
<p>The &#8220;other&#8221; is a tried and true technique of totalitarianism: from untermenschen to wreckers to communists to terrorists (and many more in between). In most cases the Other is projected outward or on an easily persecuted minority. In America the Other is your neighbor with the Other candidate&#8217;s yard sign.  He probably wants good schools for his children too and he probably prefers to drink clean water as well; he also probably disagrees on how to achieve those goals. But somewhere along the line disagreeing over how became more important than agreeing on the goals. Now he is only worthy of spittle choked vicarious tirades on internet comment threads. (And, more ominously, disturbing outbursts at presidential campaign rallies.)</p>
<p>Lincoln was right. The only thing capable of destroying America is America. And so our future lies in the hands of Americans&#8230;not Republicans, not Democrats, not even Naderites but Americans. It is time to remember that the Other is us.</p>
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		<title>By: CharlesHarris</title>
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		<dc:creator>CharlesHarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. However, I take a different view of that 2-1 statistic. I&#039;m not sure I want my party to get the support of bankers to that extent. I think this says something about the problems that do exist in the Democratic party (even though it seems strong right now), and why the whole bailout bamboozle had me cheering for idiot House Republicans like some cancelled episode of the Twilight zone. Big Dems are in bed with Wall Street, and we have few bigger problems in this country than what Wall Street hath wrought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. However, I take a different view of that 2-1 statistic. I&#8217;m not sure I want my party to get the support of bankers to that extent. I think this says something about the problems that do exist in the Democratic party (even though it seems strong right now), and why the whole bailout bamboozle had me cheering for idiot House Republicans like some cancelled episode of the Twilight zone. Big Dems are in bed with Wall Street, and we have few bigger problems in this country than what Wall Street hath wrought.</p>
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