Comments on: FOX declares McCain campaign dead, consigns them to the racist scrap heap of history http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/ Think - it ain't illegal yet... Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:32:11 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Same Old Thing http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55647 Same Old Thing Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:06:19 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55647 Ashley Todd is just the most glaring example of the lies and dirty tricks Republicans have been doing since before Nixon. She's a racist (See her letter from jail..wow) and also mentally ill but her illness is not an excuse for her actions. In her letter from jail she states she is proud of her "accomplishment" at lying to the country and the world about a mythical SBMA (Scary Black Man Assault)since she might even get on a T.V. show or two. What a joke! A sad day in our country when you can make yourself look like a worthless boob for the rest of your life, single-handedly show the fearful racism of the average American conservative, for being a lying racist and yet you still get to be on T.V. She could have just gone on the Jerry Springer show...she looks the part and can lie badly, its a match made in heaven. sent from: <a href="http://fav.or.it" rel="nofollow">fav.or.it</a> [FID2745210] Ashley Todd is just the most glaring example of the lies and dirty tricks Republicans have been doing since before Nixon. She’s a racist (See her letter from jail..wow) and also mentally ill but her illness is not an excuse for her actions. In her letter from jail she states she is proud of her “accomplishment” at lying to the country and the world about a mythical SBMA (Scary Black Man Assault)since she might even get on a T.V. show or two. What a joke! A sad day in our country when you can make yourself look like a worthless boob for the rest of your life, single-handedly show the fearful racism of the average American conservative, for being a lying racist and yet you still get to be on T.V. She could have just gone on the Jerry Springer show…she looks the part and can lie badly, its a match made in heaven.

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]]> By: Tom http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55372 Tom Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:57:47 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55372 MAYBE Ashley Todd is just mentally ill? By the way, I like Glenn Beck even more than I like O'Reilly! I'm sure no one here is "surprised" :-) MAYBE Ashley Todd is just mentally ill?

By the way, I like Glenn Beck even more than I like O’Reilly! I’m sure no one here is “surprised” :-)

]]> By: Lex http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55330 Lex Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:38:56 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55330 I third, fourth, or whatever the diagnosis of the eye. That's no fresh black eye. I don't know about the orientation of the "B", but i will say that it looks pretty lightly scratched rather than "gouged". She must have held very still while that mean ole Willie Horton was leaving his mark, very gently...after all, this is a white girl. I think that if i were ready to brand someone for Obama, i'd choose an "O" rather than a "B"...though neither would be an easy letter to gouge into someone's face. I third, fourth, or whatever the diagnosis of the eye. That’s no fresh black eye. I don’t know about the orientation of the “B”, but i will say that it looks pretty lightly scratched rather than “gouged”. She must have held very still while that mean ole Willie Horton was leaving his mark, very gently…after all, this is a white girl. I think that if i were ready to brand someone for Obama, i’d choose an “O” rather than a “B”…though neither would be an easy letter to gouge into someone’s face.

]]> By: Ann Ivins http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55327 Ann Ivins Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:27:31 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55327 No one ever said the "backwards B" was conclusive proof of anything, S. It was one more clue - and a rather laughable one, which is <i>why it got so much attention</i> - that the incident wasn't quite as it was originally reported. And yes, it <i>could</i> have happened that way. <i>Could</i> be OJ is innocent. <i>Could</i> be monkeys fly out of my butt every evening at sunset. It's a probability thing. Also, no one (no one rational, anyway) said that the Democrats have never made any boneheaded desperation plays. I can't speak for the Democrat faithful, but being a member of <i>neither</i> party, S, I'll continue to laugh at whom I damn well please, and call shenanigans where I see them. And finally, if the poor judgment of the Pennsylvania communications director for the McCain campaign shouldn't reflect upon, well, the poor judgment of the McCain campaign, then I guess everyone should get a free pass from now on. The national headquarters may be officially appalled, but someone in the party gave that dingleberry Feldman his job as a mouthpiece. His emotional incontinence should have appropriate consequences as well. No one ever said the “backwards B” was conclusive proof of anything, S. It was one more clue – and a rather laughable one, which is why it got so much attention – that the incident wasn’t quite as it was originally reported. And yes, it could have happened that way. Could be OJ is innocent. Could be monkeys fly out of my butt every evening at sunset. It’s a probability thing.

Also, no one (no one rational, anyway) said that the Democrats have never made any boneheaded desperation plays. I can’t speak for the Democrat faithful, but being a member of neither party, S, I’ll continue to laugh at whom I damn well please, and call shenanigans where I see them.

And finally, if the poor judgment of the Pennsylvania communications director for the McCain campaign shouldn’t reflect upon, well, the poor judgment of the McCain campaign, then I guess everyone should get a free pass from now on. The national headquarters may be officially appalled, but someone in the party gave that dingleberry Feldman his job as a mouthpiece. His emotional incontinence should have appropriate consequences as well.

]]> By: Savantster http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55326 Savantster Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:49:20 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55326 And the B being backwards could EASILY have been that way if, say, he had her knocked down on the ground and was holding her with his legs and his chest/head was over hers. The argument that "it was backwards so that proves something" is a logical fallacy. Now, the bruised eye.. and the time frame.. that's a different matter, that seems to be following actual evidence. And the B being backwards could EASILY have been that way if, say, he had her knocked down on the ground and was holding her with his legs and his chest/head was over hers. The argument that “it was backwards so that proves something” is a logical fallacy.

Now, the bruised eye.. and the time frame.. that’s a different matter, that seems to be following actual evidence.

]]> By: Savantster http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55325 Savantster Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:47:31 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55325 The McInsane campaign should have nothing change for it based on this. Seriously (other than the comm director in PA being fired for wetting himself at the news of a Dem supporting abusing one of his party). This girl did this. This was a fringe right-wing moron trying to do something to help her failing party. She's not alone in that desperation, there have been plenty of left-wing fringe people that do things that are pathetic as well. You can't blame the party for what an individual citizen does. Granted, there are a lot of right-wing people that wanted to believe this "poor little white girl" was "brutalized by a big, mean, dangerous black man".. but McCain didn't hire someone to beat her and hand her a script (well, I doubt he did, anyway). This is just another perfect example of why our country is falling apart. Place blame where it belongs and don't let one person's bad behavior ruin things for everyone else. This girl should be punished for breaking the law. She should be ostracized for being so pathetic. She should suffer all the humiliation she will have hoisted upon her. But none of that should have any bearing on McInsane and his band of deluded nodalongers. As much as it bothers me, Michelle Malkin actually did a piece about suspecting this to be a hoax. What really bothered me was all the links she had to other cases where Dems did the same thing. The party didn't do it, citizens did. The McInsane campaign should have nothing change for it based on this. Seriously (other than the comm director in PA being fired for wetting himself at the news of a Dem supporting abusing one of his party).

This girl did this. This was a fringe right-wing moron trying to do something to help her failing party. She’s not alone in that desperation, there have been plenty of left-wing fringe people that do things that are pathetic as well. You can’t blame the party for what an individual citizen does.

Granted, there are a lot of right-wing people that wanted to believe this “poor little white girl” was “brutalized by a big, mean, dangerous black man”.. but McCain didn’t hire someone to beat her and hand her a script (well, I doubt he did, anyway).

This is just another perfect example of why our country is falling apart. Place blame where it belongs and don’t let one person’s bad behavior ruin things for everyone else. This girl should be punished for breaking the law. She should be ostracized for being so pathetic. She should suffer all the humiliation she will have hoisted upon her. But none of that should have any bearing on McInsane and his band of deluded nodalongers.

As much as it bothers me, Michelle Malkin actually did a piece about suspecting this to be a hoax. What really bothered me was all the links she had to other cases where Dems did the same thing. The party didn’t do it, citizens did.

]]> By: Ann Ivins http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55311 Ann Ivins Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:28:31 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55311 Damn, it's CSI in here. Damn, it’s CSI in here.

]]> By: JS OBrien http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55306 JS OBrien Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:51:02 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55306 Arliss: I'm with you. I've seen more than my share of injuries from beatings, and the fact that there was no swelling on her face raised red flags all over. I've seen the kind of black eye she had, but that was from a broken nose, and her nose isn't broken. Watching her taken from the police station in handcuffs on a video, I looked closely at her eyes and couldn't see any discoloration. I suspect the black eye in the photo is makeup. Arliss:

I’m with you. I’ve seen more than my share of injuries from beatings, and the fact that there was no swelling on her face raised red flags all over. I’ve seen the kind of black eye she had, but that was from a broken nose, and her nose isn’t broken. Watching her taken from the police station in handcuffs on a video, I looked closely at her eyes and couldn’t see any discoloration. I suspect the black eye in the photo is makeup.

]]> By: Dan http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55303 Dan Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:46:55 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55303 America is finally healing. The evidence of healing is sometimes less than appealing. We tend to take the symptoms of healing as just evidence of injury or sickness, but it is the healing process which brings such evidence to light. Fatal injury or sickness, after a very short period of time, leaves a dead body, incapable of bleeding, swelling, discoloring, or evidencing pain. America is finally healing. The evidence of healing is sometimes less than appealing. We tend to take the symptoms of healing as just evidence of injury or sickness, but it is the healing process which brings such evidence to light. Fatal injury or sickness, after a very short period of time, leaves a dead body, incapable of bleeding, swelling, discoloring, or evidencing pain.

]]> By: Arliss http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55296 Arliss Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:51:45 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55296 What made me immediately suspicious was that the black-eye did not look like a fresh black-eye, never mind the backwards B. I have had a couple black-eyes in my life and hers looked like it was anywhere from 2 to 5 days old and no swelling. Fresh black-eyes are blood red to deep purple in color with the eyelids practically swollen shut and usually the white part of the eye is blood red. It takes days for a black-eye to turn that color black. What made me immediately suspicious was that the black-eye did not look like a fresh black-eye, never mind the backwards B.
I have had a couple black-eyes in my life and hers looked like it was anywhere from 2 to 5 days old and no swelling.
Fresh black-eyes are blood red to deep purple in color with the eyelids practically swollen shut and usually the white part of the eye is blood red.
It takes days for a black-eye to turn that color black.

]]> By: Dr. Slammy http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55295 Dr. Slammy Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:50:40 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55295 Wait - Willie Horton is dyslexic? Wait – Willie Horton is dyslexic?

]]> By: Jersey Bob http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55293 Jersey Bob Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:29:14 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55293 To Brian Angliss (#2): the reason the B on her face was backwards was she claimed that her attacker was dyslexic! But he had a problem scratching her face through her pointed hood... To Brian Angliss (#2): the reason the B on her face was backwards was she claimed that her attacker was dyslexic! But he had a problem scratching her face through her pointed hood…

]]> By: Ann Ivins http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55290 Ann Ivins Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:01:19 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55290 #4 Yes, I really, really believe that a not-very-bright, not-very-sober twenty-year-old came up with this pathetic piece of dumbassery all on her own. Spent much time around adolescents? She's wasted, she tries to buy more of whatever she's on, she gets the crap beat out of her and her money stolen, she needs an excuse for her parents... or there's a boyfriend they don't know about. Or something. The "B' was backwards, for the love of God. The point, Ralph, is how incredibly fatuous and desperate the McCain campaign has become. #5 No, Fox won't change, but it can't hurt to give them credit for one decent act. Plus it makes us angry liberals look all generous and shit. #7 Would you like her drawn and quartered, OH, or would a simple public beheading suffice? Perhaps you could TiVo it for years of rage-filled wanking... #4 Yes, I really, really believe that a not-very-bright, not-very-sober twenty-year-old came up with this pathetic piece of dumbassery all on her own. Spent much time around adolescents? She’s wasted, she tries to buy more of whatever she’s on, she gets the crap beat out of her and her money stolen, she needs an excuse for her parents… or there’s a boyfriend they don’t know about. Or something. The “B’ was backwards, for the love of God. The point, Ralph, is how incredibly fatuous and desperate the McCain campaign has become.

#5 No, Fox won’t change, but it can’t hurt to give them credit for one decent act. Plus it makes us angry liberals look all generous and shit.

#7 Would you like her drawn and quartered, OH, or would a simple public beheading suffice? Perhaps you could TiVo it for years of rage-filled wanking…

]]> By: OH http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55287 OH Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:05:40 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55287 Punish Ashley Todd, the Republican Racist Conservative Authoritarian Liar. This is unacceptable, this Conservative Liar should be punished, should be punished, should be punished, punished, punished, punished, punished. Punish Ashley Todd, the Republican Racist Conservative Authoritarian Liar. This is unacceptable, this Conservative Liar should be punished, should be punished, should be punished, punished, punished, punished, punished.

]]> By: henry http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55286 henry Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:00:28 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55286 well even fox (fair and inbalanced) smelled the rat on this story. will McCain appologize as he wanted the obama camp to do in the statement by congressman lewis? that he was like george wallace. well even fox (fair and inbalanced) smelled the rat on this story. will McCain appologize as he wanted the obama camp to do in the statement by congressman lewis? that he was like george wallace.

]]> By: Al http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55282 Al Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:04:03 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55282 FOX is not going to change. They just added Glenn Beck from CNN (I applaud CNN) and re-signed Bill O'Reilly. FOX is not going to change. They just added Glenn Beck from CNN (I applaud CNN) and re-signed Bill O’Reilly.

]]> By: Ralph Davis http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55279 Ralph Davis Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:36:13 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55279 Anyone really believe that Ashley Todd thought up this stunt on her own? Doesn't that have a Lee Harvey Oswald-y ring to it? Anyone really believe that Ashley Todd thought up this stunt on her own? Doesn’t that have a Lee Harvey Oswald-y ring to it?

]]> By: Can't decide.... http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55237 Can't decide.... Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:13:05 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55237 ...if I am frustrated by this story because it once again proves how easy it is to blame a black man, or happy that for once the police actually left any bias out and did their jobs to resolve this case quickly....and the fox news VP's statement? weird times indeed. …if I am frustrated by this story because it once again proves how easy it is to blame a black man, or happy that for once the police actually left any bias out and did their jobs to resolve this case quickly….and the fox news VP’s statement? weird times indeed.

]]> By: Brian Angliss http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55210 Brian Angliss Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:48:02 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55210 I guess I wasn't the only one who wondered "why the hell is the "B" on her cheek backwards if it was carved on her by someone else?" I guess I wasn’t the only one who wondered “why the hell is the “B” on her cheek backwards if it was carved on her by someone else?”

]]> By: IludiumPhosdex http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/24/fox-declares-mccain-campaign-dead-consigns-them-to-the-racist-scrap-heap-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-55209 IludiumPhosdex Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:41:14 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=4910#comment-55209 Next thing you know, expect it to be revealed that the McCain/Palin campaign has <a href="http://exaggerator.blogdrive.com/archive/725.html" rel="nofollow">a secret fondness and admiration for North Korea</a> as a Model Worthy of Study and Emulation for Saving America from Herself.... Next thing you know, expect it to be revealed that the McCain/Palin campaign has a secret fondness and admiration for North Korea as a Model Worthy of Study and Emulation for Saving America from Herself….

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