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	<title>Comments on: Meanings, pt. 1: Post-OJ America</title>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/28/meanings-pt-1-post-oj-america/comment-page-1/#comment-65258</link>
		<dc:creator>Lola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 05:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched the Michael Blagg case on 48 hours, and of course I didn&#039;t see all the evidence the jury saw, but I was not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. There were too many holes in the case, no weapon, no blood on him, and no real time of death, and really no motive! I also found it hard to see the evidence of guilt in him, despite the &quot;porn&quot; charge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched the Michael Blagg case on 48 hours, and of course I didn&#8217;t see all the evidence the jury saw, but I was not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. There were too many holes in the case, no weapon, no blood on him, and no real time of death, and really no motive! I also found it hard to see the evidence of guilt in him, despite the &#8220;porn&#8221; charge.</p>
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		<title>By: jameson</title>
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		<dc:creator>jameson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I have neverdoubted the guiltofOJ Simpson or Michael Blagg, I have great doubts about the guilt of David Westerfield.  Mind you, I watched the trial and read everything I could on the case.  My discomfort with the verdict doesn&#039;t have anything to do with being uneducated on the subject - -it has to do with the lack of hard evidence against him.  

No evidence put him in the Van Dam house at all.  And none put him at the place where her body was found.    No evidence left by him,and nothing from that area taken BY him - - no dirt or foliage was found on the RV.

He  was traveling in that RV and plenty of people saw him - no one saw a child with him.  

Yes, there was evidence of her in the RV BUT that vehicle had been parked unlocked in the neighborhood and the child was allowed to walk unsupervised at times.  Could she have gone in just to look around?  Sure she could have.  Did she?  I don&#039;t know, but I can&#039;t say for certain she did not!

I know about David Westerfield&#039;s voyurism - he used a telescope to watch an adult female walk around after her shower - - and I heard all the evidence about kiddie porn on his computer.  I wouldn&#039;t want him as a neighbor,that&#039;s for sure.  

But does looking at images prove one capable of murder?  Hardly.

And in my opinion, the evidence linking him to this crime was FAR from &quot;convicting&quot;.

I do&#039;t know if he is guilty or not, but feel he was prematurely convicted to say the least.

Others disagree, and that&#039;s OK.  But if I am ever accused, I hope people look for the hard evidence, not just possiblities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have neverdoubted the guiltofOJ Simpson or Michael Blagg, I have great doubts about the guilt of David Westerfield.  Mind you, I watched the trial and read everything I could on the case.  My discomfort with the verdict doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with being uneducated on the subject &#8211; -it has to do with the lack of hard evidence against him.  </p>
<p>No evidence put him in the Van Dam house at all.  And none put him at the place where her body was found.    No evidence left by him,and nothing from that area taken BY him &#8211; - no dirt or foliage was found on the RV.</p>
<p>He  was traveling in that RV and plenty of people saw him &#8211; no one saw a child with him.  </p>
<p>Yes, there was evidence of her in the RV BUT that vehicle had been parked unlocked in the neighborhood and the child was allowed to walk unsupervised at times.  Could she have gone in just to look around?  Sure she could have.  Did she?  I don&#8217;t know, but I can&#8217;t say for certain she did not!</p>
<p>I know about David Westerfield&#8217;s voyurism &#8211; he used a telescope to watch an adult female walk around after her shower &#8211; - and I heard all the evidence about kiddie porn on his computer.  I wouldn&#8217;t want him as a neighbor,that&#8217;s for sure.  </p>
<p>But does looking at images prove one capable of murder?  Hardly.</p>
<p>And in my opinion, the evidence linking him to this crime was FAR from &#8220;convicting&#8221;.</p>
<p>I do&#8217;t know if he is guilty or not, but feel he was prematurely convicted to say the least.</p>
<p>Others disagree, and that&#8217;s OK.  But if I am ever accused, I hope people look for the hard evidence, not just possiblities.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the United States, we are brought up to believe in &quot;truth, justice, and the American way&quot;.  But this case is not the only case that abrades those values.  There are a number of books about cases in which people have been tried by the media: 

&quot;Gone in the Night: The Dowaliby Family&#039;s Encounter With Murder and the Law&quot; by David Protess and Rob Warden, tells of a case remarkably similar to the Ramsey case;

&quot;Presumed Guilty&quot; by Stephen Singular tells much about the Ramsey case and a book by the same title by Matt Dalton explains how Scott Peterson got improperly convicted.

&quot;Media Tried, Justice Denied&quot;, by Christopher Brown, tells of the opinion of how Darlie Routier was falsely convicted, in large part due to media distortion.

&quot;Reasonable Doubt&quot; by Steve Vogel explains how Jim Hendricks was convicted,(yet released after ten years), in spite of a lack of evidence against him.
Sam Sheppard also comes to mind.

Most likely there are a number of cases in which innocent people were convicted of murder based on erroneous judgements, for which books were never written.  And many people have been wrongly imprisoned.  

Was David Westerfield convicted by placing a microscopic blood drop on his shirt and a blonde hair here and there?
Was Claude Dean Anderson really Xiana Fairchild&#039;s killer?
Did Michael Blagg have someone help him to murder his wife, and what happened to his daughter, Abby, still listed as missing?

And of course there are probably tons of cases in which a killer has gone free because of the focus on innocent people.  Once you study this type of case in depth, you will conclude, as I have, that &quot;truth, justice and American way&quot; is a nothing but a pipe dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the United States, we are brought up to believe in &#8220;truth, justice, and the American way&#8221;.  But this case is not the only case that abrades those values.  There are a number of books about cases in which people have been tried by the media: </p>
<p>&#8220;Gone in the Night: The Dowaliby Family&#8217;s Encounter With Murder and the Law&#8221; by David Protess and Rob Warden, tells of a case remarkably similar to the Ramsey case;</p>
<p>&#8220;Presumed Guilty&#8221; by Stephen Singular tells much about the Ramsey case and a book by the same title by Matt Dalton explains how Scott Peterson got improperly convicted.</p>
<p>&#8220;Media Tried, Justice Denied&#8221;, by Christopher Brown, tells of the opinion of how Darlie Routier was falsely convicted, in large part due to media distortion.</p>
<p>&#8220;Reasonable Doubt&#8221; by Steve Vogel explains how Jim Hendricks was convicted,(yet released after ten years), in spite of a lack of evidence against him.<br />
Sam Sheppard also comes to mind.</p>
<p>Most likely there are a number of cases in which innocent people were convicted of murder based on erroneous judgements, for which books were never written.  And many people have been wrongly imprisoned.  </p>
<p>Was David Westerfield convicted by placing a microscopic blood drop on his shirt and a blonde hair here and there?<br />
Was Claude Dean Anderson really Xiana Fairchild&#8217;s killer?<br />
Did Michael Blagg have someone help him to murder his wife, and what happened to his daughter, Abby, still listed as missing?</p>
<p>And of course there are probably tons of cases in which a killer has gone free because of the focus on innocent people.  Once you study this type of case in depth, you will conclude, as I have, that &#8220;truth, justice and American way&#8221; is a nothing but a pipe dream.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellant article!!!! I wish they would reopen the Martha Moxley case again. The cases conviction was based on Domique Dunne and Mark Furman,  emotion against wealth, and media editting sound bites, when the physical evidences points to other kids that night. Just ask the kids in the neighborhood. Same deal in the Girl Scout case, they blamed a neighborhood boy for yeasr because he got into mischief all the time, but the physical evidence pointed to a man they did even know was in their neighborhood. Thanks for the article!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellant article!!!! I wish they would reopen the Martha Moxley case again. The cases conviction was based on Domique Dunne and Mark Furman,  emotion against wealth, and media editting sound bites, when the physical evidences points to other kids that night. Just ask the kids in the neighborhood. Same deal in the Girl Scout case, they blamed a neighborhood boy for yeasr because he got into mischief all the time, but the physical evidence pointed to a man they did even know was in their neighborhood. Thanks for the article!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jameson</title>
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		<dc:creator>jameson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daily attacks on the radio from Boyles.  A complete trial on Geraldo&#039;s show.  (Ramseys found responsible)  Online lynch mob attacks took place and didn&#039;t just target the Ramseys but anyone who refused to join their ranks.  Tracey and I have both been targets.  

But this is America and everyone has the right to be wrong.  More than that, everyone has the right to be wrong and venomous.  Especially when playing to a cheering audience.  So we could do nothing but soldier on and do what we felt was right.

I know my own faith in the goodness of people was deeply shaken - and not just by the BORG.  I saw others, people I trusted to be good, fall when they took the easy path, acted on emotions and not solid reasoning.  And some, like Nancy Graceless, could never apologize for their thoughtlessness and plain meanness.

Why did JonBenet touch so many of us?  Partly because she was far away and not an emotional burden to us.  We could face our fears through a case that did NOT really affect our lives.  Partly because it was the FIRST case where so MUCH was made public.  (Can you name any other case with so many leaks, so many press conferences and public meetings?)  And this happened to be available to EVERYONE through the news and the Internet.

The Lizzie Borden story survived, the Lindburg case remained in the public consciousness, Leopold and Loeb and the Clutter family remain names we all know.  JonBenet will too because she should have been safe in her bed that Christmas night but was not.  She died too soon when she should have been in the safest place in the world - her bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daily attacks on the radio from Boyles.  A complete trial on Geraldo&#8217;s show.  (Ramseys found responsible)  Online lynch mob attacks took place and didn&#8217;t just target the Ramseys but anyone who refused to join their ranks.  Tracey and I have both been targets.  </p>
<p>But this is America and everyone has the right to be wrong.  More than that, everyone has the right to be wrong and venomous.  Especially when playing to a cheering audience.  So we could do nothing but soldier on and do what we felt was right.</p>
<p>I know my own faith in the goodness of people was deeply shaken &#8211; and not just by the BORG.  I saw others, people I trusted to be good, fall when they took the easy path, acted on emotions and not solid reasoning.  And some, like Nancy Graceless, could never apologize for their thoughtlessness and plain meanness.</p>
<p>Why did JonBenet touch so many of us?  Partly because she was far away and not an emotional burden to us.  We could face our fears through a case that did NOT really affect our lives.  Partly because it was the FIRST case where so MUCH was made public.  (Can you name any other case with so many leaks, so many press conferences and public meetings?)  And this happened to be available to EVERYONE through the news and the Internet.</p>
<p>The Lizzie Borden story survived, the Lindburg case remained in the public consciousness, Leopold and Loeb and the Clutter family remain names we all know.  JonBenet will too because she should have been safe in her bed that Christmas night but was not.  She died too soon when she should have been in the safest place in the world &#8211; her bed.</p>
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