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	<title>Comments on: AP trivializes Iraqi death toll, amplifies censorship</title>
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	<description>Think - it ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: Thor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  While not all Iraqi dead were killed by Americans, we are directly responsible for all Iraqi deaths because we started this ill-planned, illegal war.

We&#039;ve created more terrorists than existed prior to the &quot;War on Terror,&quot; even though we&#039;ve killed quite a few of them (no real numbers on that either, by the way - I&#039;ve always wondered when you see reports such as &quot;the U.S. mlitary has reported 150 Iraqi insurgents killed in such-and-such an action&quot; - how many of those were actual insurgents, and how many were just innocent people sitting down to lunch?).

If Bush has any positive legacy at all (doubtful), it&#039;s that he&#039;s taught us that military strength alone will never defeat terrorism, and in fact can have the opposite effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  While not all Iraqi dead were killed by Americans, we are directly responsible for all Iraqi deaths because we started this ill-planned, illegal war.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve created more terrorists than existed prior to the &#8220;War on Terror,&#8221; even though we&#8217;ve killed quite a few of them (no real numbers on that either, by the way &#8211; I&#8217;ve always wondered when you see reports such as &#8220;the U.S. mlitary has reported 150 Iraqi insurgents killed in such-and-such an action&#8221; &#8211; how many of those were actual insurgents, and how many were just innocent people sitting down to lunch?).</p>
<p>If Bush has any positive legacy at all (doubtful), it&#8217;s that he&#8217;s taught us that military strength alone will never defeat terrorism, and in fact can have the opposite effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Workin' Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Workin' Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the Obama / McCain / Rick Warren evening.  Warren asked each man if they believed that evil existed, and should America negotiate with evil, appease evil, or defeat evil (a rather useless question.)  McCain bluntly said DEFEAT IT, DEFEAT IT.  Obama said we must defeat it, but that we must be careful not to create more evil in defeating evil.  Naturally, McCain got a loud round of applause, Obama got crickets from the congregation.

We don&#039;t count their dead because we don&#039;t want to face our own mistakes and evil.  From all estimates, we&#039;ve killed 1 to 3 times as many Iraqis in 6 years as Saddam did in 30 years, not to mentioned the estimated 4 million Iraqis displaced without and within Iraq.  

We want to believe in our exceptionalism, our stature as a moral compass, so we shy from anything that could diminish our own view of ourselves.  This keeps us from true greatness, and the past eight years have lead us down a hellish path.  I think Obama brings both intellect and pragmatism to move America back to a leadership role in this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the Obama / McCain / Rick Warren evening.  Warren asked each man if they believed that evil existed, and should America negotiate with evil, appease evil, or defeat evil (a rather useless question.)  McCain bluntly said DEFEAT IT, DEFEAT IT.  Obama said we must defeat it, but that we must be careful not to create more evil in defeating evil.  Naturally, McCain got a loud round of applause, Obama got crickets from the congregation.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t count their dead because we don&#8217;t want to face our own mistakes and evil.  From all estimates, we&#8217;ve killed 1 to 3 times as many Iraqis in 6 years as Saddam did in 30 years, not to mentioned the estimated 4 million Iraqis displaced without and within Iraq.  </p>
<p>We want to believe in our exceptionalism, our stature as a moral compass, so we shy from anything that could diminish our own view of ourselves.  This keeps us from true greatness, and the past eight years have lead us down a hellish path.  I think Obama brings both intellect and pragmatism to move America back to a leadership role in this world.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m half surprised that we haven&#039;t started referring to dead Iraqis as &quot;liberated&quot;...that way we could shout it from the rooftops.  &quot;148 Iraqis liberated in October,&quot; according to a press release from the DoD, &quot;we&#039;re working hard to liberate as many Iraqis as we can so that democracy might prevail.&quot;

But we&#039;ll barely own up to, much less actually honor our own fallen.  

There are a lot of things we refuse to admit.  &lt;i&gt;Ignor(e)&lt;/i&gt;ance is one of our most basic problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m half surprised that we haven&#8217;t started referring to dead Iraqis as &#8220;liberated&#8221;&#8230;that way we could shout it from the rooftops.  &#8220;148 Iraqis liberated in October,&#8221; according to a press release from the DoD, &#8220;we&#8217;re working hard to liberate as many Iraqis as we can so that democracy might prevail.&#8221;</p>
<p>But we&#8217;ll barely own up to, much less actually honor our own fallen.  </p>
<p>There are a lot of things we refuse to admit.  <i>Ignor(e)</i>ance is one of our most basic problems.</p>
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