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	<title>Comments on: May I wish you a, um, Merry Christmas?</title>
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	<description>Think - it ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: JS OBrien</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/12/25/may-i-wish-you-a-um-merry-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-60165</link>
		<dc:creator>JS OBrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann:

Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann:</p>
<p>Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Ivins</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/12/25/may-i-wish-you-a-um-merry-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-60162</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Ivins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any religious festival in which I have no investment of faith but which nevertheless results in my receiving lots of presents can call itself whatever it wants. If Hanukkah had better swag, I&#039;d be lighting candles right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any religious festival in which I have no investment of faith but which nevertheless results in my receiving lots of presents can call itself whatever it wants. If Hanukkah had better swag, I&#8217;d be lighting candles right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/12/25/may-i-wish-you-a-um-merry-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-60142</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Lex&#039;s comment. As an ardent anti-Christian (no, not an atheist), I nevertheless find feeling compelled to avoid wishing &quot;Merry Christmas&quot; deflating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Lex&#8217;s comment. As an ardent anti-Christian (no, not an atheist), I nevertheless find feeling compelled to avoid wishing &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221; deflating.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy: great post.

I sent the following  message to all my friends and thought I&#039;d send it to y&#039;all.

Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the 
most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular traditions at all, and a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset accepted calendar year 2009, but without due respect for the calendars of choice of others, and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, or sexual orientation of the wishee.

By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms:

This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for him/herself or others and is void where 
prohibited by law and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or the issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy: great post.</p>
<p>I sent the following  message to all my friends and thought I&#8217;d send it to y&#8217;all.</p>
<p>Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the<br />
most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular traditions at all, and a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset accepted calendar year 2009, but without due respect for the calendars of choice of others, and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, or sexual orientation of the wishee.</p>
<p>By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms:</p>
<p>This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for him/herself or others and is void where<br />
prohibited by law and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or the issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Redal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Redal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lex,

AMEN.  And bottoms up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lex,</p>
<p>AMEN.  And bottoms up.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/12/25/may-i-wish-you-a-um-merry-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-60106</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To everyone, Merry Christmas and a safe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sitonsantaslap.com/?utm_source=bc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Happy Holidays!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To everyone, Merry Christmas and a safe <a href="http://www.sitonsantaslap.com/?utm_source=bc" rel="nofollow">Happy Holidays!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done, Wendy.

As one who wasn&#039;t even baptized and is more than willing to skewer Christianity at the drop of a hat, i still say &quot;Merry Christmas&quot;.  And actually, &quot;Happy Holidays&quot; kind of pisses me off...i don&#039;t know why, it just does.

But i will say that the religious right&#039;s attempt to make us all bow to the &quot;reason for the season&quot; is simply laughable.  Where&#039;s Christ in all of this?  I see a lot of Santa Claus, drug induced shamanic symbol turned into the figurehead of orgiastic consumerism that he is...but not a whole lot of peace on earth and good will towards men.

Then again, i don&#039;t see a lot of Christ in Christianity (and hence my willingness to skewer).  Christmas - by whatever name one chooses to call it - is a celebration of moving from the dark to the light, which was essentially Christ&#039;s message.  So i figure that it&#039;s ok to ignore that fact that Jesus was almost certainly not born in December.  It&#039;s probably ok to trim the pagan tree rather than decorating a fish.  And &quot;Merry Christmas&quot; sounds a lot less forced than a politically correct &quot;Happy Holidays&quot;.

So...Merry Christmas, Scrogues.  Now if you&#039;ll excuse me, i&#039;ve been collecting reindeer urine all day and i&#039;m all set to celebrate Christmas the old, old fashioned way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done, Wendy.</p>
<p>As one who wasn&#8217;t even baptized and is more than willing to skewer Christianity at the drop of a hat, i still say &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221;.  And actually, &#8220;Happy Holidays&#8221; kind of pisses me off&#8230;i don&#8217;t know why, it just does.</p>
<p>But i will say that the religious right&#8217;s attempt to make us all bow to the &#8220;reason for the season&#8221; is simply laughable.  Where&#8217;s Christ in all of this?  I see a lot of Santa Claus, drug induced shamanic symbol turned into the figurehead of orgiastic consumerism that he is&#8230;but not a whole lot of peace on earth and good will towards men.</p>
<p>Then again, i don&#8217;t see a lot of Christ in Christianity (and hence my willingness to skewer).  Christmas &#8211; by whatever name one chooses to call it &#8211; is a celebration of moving from the dark to the light, which was essentially Christ&#8217;s message.  So i figure that it&#8217;s ok to ignore that fact that Jesus was almost certainly not born in December.  It&#8217;s probably ok to trim the pagan tree rather than decorating a fish.  And &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221; sounds a lot less forced than a politically correct &#8220;Happy Holidays&#8221;.</p>
<p>So&#8230;Merry Christmas, Scrogues.  Now if you&#8217;ll excuse me, i&#8217;ve been collecting reindeer urine all day and i&#8217;m all set to celebrate Christmas the old, old fashioned way.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Redal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Redal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do recognize the grounds for this legitimate concern, JS, even if I didn&#039;t acknowledge it directly in what I wrote.  In Europe, no one tends to worry that &quot;Merry Christmas&quot; is intended as a religious mission statement, nor would they necessarily even assume that the greeting sender is a practicing Christian.  Definitely different climates, and there, not so rent by the culture wars that continue to besiege us.  I would just like to see Americans of all stripes and practices relax a little bit.  (In my dreams!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do recognize the grounds for this legitimate concern, JS, even if I didn&#8217;t acknowledge it directly in what I wrote.  In Europe, no one tends to worry that &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221; is intended as a religious mission statement, nor would they necessarily even assume that the greeting sender is a practicing Christian.  Definitely different climates, and there, not so rent by the culture wars that continue to besiege us.  I would just like to see Americans of all stripes and practices relax a little bit.  (In my dreams!)</p>
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		<title>By: JS OBrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS OBrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy,

While I agree with you that there are many who are oversensitive to Christmas greetings, I submit that this oversensitivity would not exist if there weren&#039;t so many &quot;Christians&quot; who continue to insist that those of us who aren&#039;t Christian are unwelcome in &quot;their&quot; country.

I think the answer to this is very simple, really.  Once enough American Christians reject those who insist that there is something wrong with those of us who do not share their faith, all of this will right itself.

The Europeans don&#039;t mind expressions of Christmas cheer because Christians in most countries there are not to be feared.  Here in the US, we would be foolish not to fear them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy,</p>
<p>While I agree with you that there are many who are oversensitive to Christmas greetings, I submit that this oversensitivity would not exist if there weren&#8217;t so many &#8220;Christians&#8221; who continue to insist that those of us who aren&#8217;t Christian are unwelcome in &#8220;their&#8221; country.</p>
<p>I think the answer to this is very simple, really.  Once enough American Christians reject those who insist that there is something wrong with those of us who do not share their faith, all of this will right itself.</p>
<p>The Europeans don&#8217;t mind expressions of Christmas cheer because Christians in most countries there are not to be feared.  Here in the US, we would be foolish not to fear them.</p>
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