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	<title>Comments on: The Weekly Carboholic: Pew poll says climate lowest priority, but results are curious</title>
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	<description>Think.  It ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: The Weekly Carboholic: NE Pacific clouds observed to amplify warming &#124; Scholars and Rogues</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/02/04/the-weekly-carboholic-pew-poll-results-curious/comment-page-1/#comment-96429</link>
		<dc:creator>The Weekly Carboholic: NE Pacific clouds observed to amplify warming &#124; Scholars and Rogues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and the effects thereof worsen. These effects include reduced calicification of plankton and larger areas of low oxygen (hypoxia) that could lead to larger ocean dead [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and the effects thereof worsen. These effects include reduced calicification of plankton and larger areas of low oxygen (hypoxia) that could lead to larger ocean dead [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Milloy&#8217;s latest climate op-ed riddled with errors &#124; Scholars and Rogues</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/02/04/the-weekly-carboholic-pew-poll-results-curious/comment-page-1/#comment-93598</link>
		<dc:creator>Milloy&#8217;s latest climate op-ed riddled with errors &#124; Scholars and Rogues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 14:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or not &#8220;man-made CO2 emissions&#8221; are causing harm, start by researching the effect of ocean acidification on marine [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or not &#8220;man-made CO2 emissions&#8221; are causing harm, start by researching the effect of ocean acidification on marine [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WashPost: Complicit in Disformation (or explicit collaboration)?</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/02/04/the-weekly-carboholic-pew-poll-results-curious/comment-page-1/#comment-62731</link>
		<dc:creator>WashPost: Complicit in Disformation (or explicit collaboration)?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] then uses a poorly worded PEW poll  to &#8216;prove&#8217; that the public doesn&#8217;t care about the environment (of climate change) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/02/04/the-weekly-carboholic-pew-poll-results-curious/comment-page-1/#comment-62014</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, &lt;i&gt;The World Without Us&lt;/i&gt; is a great book, though i wish that he had spent more time running the thought experiment of humans vanishing and less time discussing our environmental degradation.  

Much cleaner to hack apart a frozen carcass, much cleaner.

The green tech industry seems to be a lot of throwing things against the wall to see what will stick.  That&#039;s probably as it should be, but makes for a hell of job keeping up on and sorting it out.

I know that your personal life was pretty hectic when i posted my review, Brian, but i think that you&#039;d really like &lt;i&gt;Eating the Sun&lt;/i&gt;.  Morton incorporates high science with a complete (if only sketched) history of the planet&#039;s climate.  Like &lt;i&gt;The World Without Us&lt;/i&gt;, it is a perspective shifting read.

I live where i do partly because the environment is both cleaner than average and because the entire political spectrum up here really cares about it.  The Limbaugh listeners are even all about composting toilets, solar panels and windmills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, <i>The World Without Us</i> is a great book, though i wish that he had spent more time running the thought experiment of humans vanishing and less time discussing our environmental degradation.  </p>
<p>Much cleaner to hack apart a frozen carcass, much cleaner.</p>
<p>The green tech industry seems to be a lot of throwing things against the wall to see what will stick.  That&#8217;s probably as it should be, but makes for a hell of job keeping up on and sorting it out.</p>
<p>I know that your personal life was pretty hectic when i posted my review, Brian, but i think that you&#8217;d really like <i>Eating the Sun</i>.  Morton incorporates high science with a complete (if only sketched) history of the planet&#8217;s climate.  Like <i>The World Without Us</i>, it is a perspective shifting read.</p>
<p>I live where i do partly because the environment is both cleaner than average and because the entire political spectrum up here really cares about it.  The Limbaugh listeners are even all about composting toilets, solar panels and windmills.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/02/04/the-weekly-carboholic-pew-poll-results-curious/comment-page-1/#comment-61936</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael and Lex - agreed completely.  I&#039;ve recently been using &quot;climate disruption&quot; wherever possible since I think it&#039;s both scientifically accurate and more immediate than &quot;global warming&quot; or &quot;climate change.&quot;

I should post more on cool energy and &quot;green&quot; tech, since there&#039;s so much of it out there.  Lots of it is great, but lots of it is crap too.

My sister has spent some time up in Barrow, Alaska, and she described what the local Inuit do with caribou they shoot in the winter - the lob the carcass up onto the roof where it freezes solid.  And they bring out a small electric saw to cut meat off the carcass whenever they&#039;re hungry.

Dawn, far too many people believe that humanity is too small to affect something as huge as the ocean (or the climate in general).  I just finished reading &quot;The World Without Us&quot; and it provides a great deal of perspective in that regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael and Lex &#8211; agreed completely.  I&#8217;ve recently been using &#8220;climate disruption&#8221; wherever possible since I think it&#8217;s both scientifically accurate and more immediate than &#8220;global warming&#8221; or &#8220;climate change.&#8221;</p>
<p>I should post more on cool energy and &#8220;green&#8221; tech, since there&#8217;s so much of it out there.  Lots of it is great, but lots of it is crap too.</p>
<p>My sister has spent some time up in Barrow, Alaska, and she described what the local Inuit do with caribou they shoot in the winter &#8211; the lob the carcass up onto the roof where it freezes solid.  And they bring out a small electric saw to cut meat off the carcass whenever they&#8217;re hungry.</p>
<p>Dawn, far too many people believe that humanity is too small to affect something as huge as the ocean (or the climate in general).  I just finished reading &#8220;The World Without Us&#8221; and it provides a great deal of perspective in that regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/02/04/the-weekly-carboholic-pew-poll-results-curious/comment-page-1/#comment-61932</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this posting - even though it is so sad.

The hypoxia in our local rivers and bays is terrible.  Out here the Hood Canal struggles mightily.  I find it heartbreaking to see the degradation of the Chesapeake Bay.  The Bay was my treasured childhood playground.  My brother still lives out there.  He&#039;s given up fishing and crabbing - except for his personal use.   Why are we so blind to our effect on water.  Try and live without it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this posting &#8211; even though it is so sad.</p>
<p>The hypoxia in our local rivers and bays is terrible.  Out here the Hood Canal struggles mightily.  I find it heartbreaking to see the degradation of the Chesapeake Bay.  The Bay was my treasured childhood playground.  My brother still lives out there.  He&#8217;s given up fishing and crabbing &#8211; except for his personal use.   Why are we so blind to our effect on water.  Try and live without it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/02/04/the-weekly-carboholic-pew-poll-results-curious/comment-page-1/#comment-61921</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael about the unfortunate use of the phrase &quot;Global Warming&quot;.

This was a great carboholic, Brian, and i commented on it the day that it came out...but my comment turned into a giant, threadfucking bitch dissertation, so i deleted it. (revolving around the indoor livers complaining about the weather and then using said complaints to form a bad argument re climate change)

I particularly like the new possibility for refrigerating as refrigerators suck in many ways.  If i were building, i&#039;d have a little room added for energy free winter refrigeration (in this climate).  I always loved the way Russians use their unheated balconies as winter refrigerators...oh the beer you can backstock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael about the unfortunate use of the phrase &#8220;Global Warming&#8221;.</p>
<p>This was a great carboholic, Brian, and i commented on it the day that it came out&#8230;but my comment turned into a giant, threadfucking bitch dissertation, so i deleted it. (revolving around the indoor livers complaining about the weather and then using said complaints to form a bad argument re climate change)</p>
<p>I particularly like the new possibility for refrigerating as refrigerators suck in many ways.  If i were building, i&#8217;d have a little room added for energy free winter refrigeration (in this climate).  I always loved the way Russians use their unheated balconies as winter refrigerators&#8230;oh the beer you can backstock!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/02/04/the-weekly-carboholic-pew-poll-results-curious/comment-page-1/#comment-61851</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That survey seems really strange. I can understand terrorism being 3rd on the list a year or two after the attacks, but now? And deficit reduction being much more important than tax cuts? I think not.

It is really unfortunate that Global Warming was the phrase that stuck rather than Climate Change or even Extreme Climate, because it implies that everything gets hotter rather than climate becoming more erratic, which is closer to the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That survey seems really strange. I can understand terrorism being 3rd on the list a year or two after the attacks, but now? And deficit reduction being much more important than tax cuts? I think not.</p>
<p>It is really unfortunate that Global Warming was the phrase that stuck rather than Climate Change or even Extreme Climate, because it implies that everything gets hotter rather than climate becoming more erratic, which is closer to the truth.</p>
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