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		<title>By: Jeff Huber</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/05/04/dumb-like-a-maliki/comment-page-1/#comment-65777</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Huber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 19:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it means an attack by orangatangs is imminent.</description>
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		<title>By: Alexander Dombroff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Dombroff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does an &quot;Orange&quot; threat level have to do with the swine flu?  I can&#039;t seem to find out why it&#039;s at orange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does an &#8220;Orange&#8221; threat level have to do with the swine flu?  I can&#8217;t seem to find out why it&#8217;s at orange.</p>
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		<title>By: elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 07:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lex, try and refrain from being too personal...it rather defeats any attempt of establishing an objective argument/dialogue...

...and as I stated previously I have no argument with Obama and his leadership.

But I shall keep swimming in the water - you never know I may attempt the deepest oceans any moment now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lex, try and refrain from being too personal&#8230;it rather defeats any attempt of establishing an objective argument/dialogue&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and as I stated previously I have no argument with Obama and his leadership.</p>
<p>But I shall keep swimming in the water &#8211; you never know I may attempt the deepest oceans any moment now.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, hey, sorry...#11 is me.  New computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, hey, sorry&#8230;#11 is me.  New computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 02:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, no dialogue then.  By &quot;his people&quot; i&#039;ll assume that you mean men like Secretary Gates of Iran-Contra fame.  Obama and his people certainly have the goodwill of the neocons; they love his AfPak plan and have said so publicly.

Now, the Pakistanis who&#039;ve lost hundreds to Obma&#039;s Predator strikes inside a sovereign nation (that&#039;s an act of war, btw) might not fall into that majority support and goodwill...but they don&#039;t really count, do they?  And i&#039;m sure that none of that has anything to do with destabilizing Pakistan...how could it with Obama being such an uncynical, intelligent man of good will.  The Pakistanis are probably comforted by Obama being surrounded by the best intelligence and analysts in the world...so good that they manage to blow up three weddings for every &quot;Al Queada&quot; suspect.

It was said that the British AfPak policy during the Great Game was the result of &quot;half-hearted Imperialists and uninformed Liberals&quot;.  Funny how history repeats itself, no?

No worries, i understand that you don&#039;t really want a dialogue but to be made to feel better about Obama.  Best not to look too deeply at matters and things will be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, no dialogue then.  By &#8220;his people&#8221; i&#8217;ll assume that you mean men like Secretary Gates of Iran-Contra fame.  Obama and his people certainly have the goodwill of the neocons; they love his AfPak plan and have said so publicly.</p>
<p>Now, the Pakistanis who&#8217;ve lost hundreds to Obma&#8217;s Predator strikes inside a sovereign nation (that&#8217;s an act of war, btw) might not fall into that majority support and goodwill&#8230;but they don&#8217;t really count, do they?  And i&#8217;m sure that none of that has anything to do with destabilizing Pakistan&#8230;how could it with Obama being such an uncynical, intelligent man of good will.  The Pakistanis are probably comforted by Obama being surrounded by the best intelligence and analysts in the world&#8230;so good that they manage to blow up three weddings for every &#8220;Al Queada&#8221; suspect.</p>
<p>It was said that the British AfPak policy during the Great Game was the result of &#8220;half-hearted Imperialists and uninformed Liberals&#8221;.  Funny how history repeats itself, no?</p>
<p>No worries, i understand that you don&#8217;t really want a dialogue but to be made to feel better about Obama.  Best not to look too deeply at matters and things will be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 12:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;scuse me if I fail to see the evils in the current administration.

If you have no faith at all in Obama and his people then I cannot even begin a dialogue with you.  Until Obama actually does something that causes a breach of trust/faith with regard to his legitimate mandate then he will continue to have the majority support and goodwill (and how important that is right now when making judgement calls on our modern day Goliath) worldwide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;scuse me if I fail to see the evils in the current administration.</p>
<p>If you have no faith at all in Obama and his people then I cannot even begin a dialogue with you.  Until Obama actually does something that causes a breach of trust/faith with regard to his legitimate mandate then he will continue to have the majority support and goodwill (and how important that is right now when making judgement calls on our modern day Goliath) worldwide.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, i believe that the issue is about both...but that&#039;s only if i&#039;m reading the articles correctly.  

Elaine, if you&#039;re going to take it on faith then there&#039;s no reason for me to argue with you because information (current or historical) and rationality have nothing to do with it.  However, the &quot;best analysts, information, etc.&quot; is something of a stretch.  This is the same structure that couldn&#039;t see the fall of the USSR coming, couldn&#039;t see 9/11 coming, convinced America that Iraq had WMD, and a list along these lines that could keep me typing all day long.

But i&#039;m sure that President Obama is happy to have you support for the Long War.  Leaders always appreciate unquestioning subjects who don&#039;t bother with facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, i believe that the issue is about both&#8230;but that&#8217;s only if i&#8217;m reading the articles correctly.  </p>
<p>Elaine, if you&#8217;re going to take it on faith then there&#8217;s no reason for me to argue with you because information (current or historical) and rationality have nothing to do with it.  However, the &#8220;best analysts, information, etc.&#8221; is something of a stretch.  This is the same structure that couldn&#8217;t see the fall of the USSR coming, couldn&#8217;t see 9/11 coming, convinced America that Iraq had WMD, and a list along these lines that could keep me typing all day long.</p>
<p>But i&#8217;m sure that President Obama is happy to have you support for the Long War.  Leaders always appreciate unquestioning subjects who don&#8217;t bother with facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Huber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Huber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 09:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the amount of hell you can raise with nuclear material--i.e., build a dirty bomb--you can raise a lot easier without exposing yourself to the material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the amount of hell you can raise with nuclear material&#8211;i.e., build a dirty bomb&#8211;you can raise a lot easier without exposing yourself to the material.</p>
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		<title>By: elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 08:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.indianexpress.com/news/on-zardariobama-table-fears-that-taliban-may-hijack-nukes/454651/</description>
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		<title>By: elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 07:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff

Your article is excellent - no doubt.

However, Obama has access to the best intelligence, the most up to date information, the best technology, the best analysts available...and is in charge of American National Security.  You and the media do not know what he/they know.  I take Obama&#039;s stewardship of National/Western Security on trust - he was legitimately voted in and he has popular worldwide support.  As he (O) is neither stupid, ignorant or cynical I think his judgement cannot be sullied at this stage of the game.

Nukes is the number 1 security concern even if not mentioned.  Sure, if your local backwoodsman living in the mountains is throwing stones, killing women and stopping progress only in his little area and is contained then National/World Security issues for every other country are not really an issue.  

...but backwoodsmen multiply and pass on their idiotic/dangerous views and get into politics all the time.   

Wonder how the Bush is doing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff</p>
<p>Your article is excellent &#8211; no doubt.</p>
<p>However, Obama has access to the best intelligence, the most up to date information, the best technology, the best analysts available&#8230;and is in charge of American National Security.  You and the media do not know what he/they know.  I take Obama&#8217;s stewardship of National/Western Security on trust &#8211; he was legitimately voted in and he has popular worldwide support.  As he (O) is neither stupid, ignorant or cynical I think his judgement cannot be sullied at this stage of the game.</p>
<p>Nukes is the number 1 security concern even if not mentioned.  Sure, if your local backwoodsman living in the mountains is throwing stones, killing women and stopping progress only in his little area and is contained then National/World Security issues for every other country are not really an issue.  </p>
<p>&#8230;but backwoodsmen multiply and pass on their idiotic/dangerous views and get into politics all the time.   </p>
<p>Wonder how the Bush is doing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lex - isn&#039;t the Pakistan issue less about the nuclear weapons and more about the basic, raw nuclear material? (Which, of course, you can still raise all kinds of hell with?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lex &#8211; isn&#8217;t the Pakistan issue less about the nuclear weapons and more about the basic, raw nuclear material? (Which, of course, you can still raise all kinds of hell with?)</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 01:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elaine, the situation in Pakistan is far more complicated than what comes through the media filter.  To gain control of Pakistan&#039;s nuclear weapons, the Taliban would have to either take over Pakistan or gain ascendancy across both religious and ethnic divides. (With the former requiring the latter.)

Besides, the military-industrial-executive decision complex that Jeff wrote about wants you to be terrified of the Taliban (a term so broad in media usage as to be useless) and the idea of them getting Pakistan&#039;s nuclear weapons.  If you fear it, you&#039;ll accept them doing &quot;whatever&#039;s necessary&quot; to keep you safe...which means permanent war half way around the world.

Besides that, the Taliban have - traditionally - shown little interest in anything outside of Afghanistan.  (and the Pashtun provinces of Pakistan) The connection between the Taliban and the bogeymen we call Al Queada has always been tenuous...right back to the Soviet War.  Moreover, the haven that the Taliban (a somewhat different Taliban than we&#039;re currently fighting) gave to bin Laden is also more complicated than the standard media narrative.  

You&#039;ll be better served by taking what Jeff says so humorously very seriously and assuming that what you get from &quot;the media&quot; is a pack of MIC serving lies.  Some portions of the US government do not change with an election...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaine, the situation in Pakistan is far more complicated than what comes through the media filter.  To gain control of Pakistan&#8217;s nuclear weapons, the Taliban would have to either take over Pakistan or gain ascendancy across both religious and ethnic divides. (With the former requiring the latter.)</p>
<p>Besides, the military-industrial-executive decision complex that Jeff wrote about wants you to be terrified of the Taliban (a term so broad in media usage as to be useless) and the idea of them getting Pakistan&#8217;s nuclear weapons.  If you fear it, you&#8217;ll accept them doing &#8220;whatever&#8217;s necessary&#8221; to keep you safe&#8230;which means permanent war half way around the world.</p>
<p>Besides that, the Taliban have &#8211; traditionally &#8211; shown little interest in anything outside of Afghanistan.  (and the Pashtun provinces of Pakistan) The connection between the Taliban and the bogeymen we call Al Queada has always been tenuous&#8230;right back to the Soviet War.  Moreover, the haven that the Taliban (a somewhat different Taliban than we&#8217;re currently fighting) gave to bin Laden is also more complicated than the standard media narrative.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll be better served by taking what Jeff says so humorously very seriously and assuming that what you get from &#8220;the media&#8221; is a pack of MIC serving lies.  Some portions of the US government do not change with an election&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Huber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Huber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 21:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elaine, 

I didn&#039;t get around to mentioning it in this article, but Team Obama&#039;s Bananastan strategy doesn&#039;t say jack about nukes, so my point about the chess club and its plans is, I think, still valid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaine, </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get around to mentioning it in this article, but Team Obama&#8217;s Bananastan strategy doesn&#8217;t say jack about nukes, so my point about the chess club and its plans is, I think, still valid.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I commented at &lt;a href=&quot;http://zenhuber.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pen &amp; Sword&lt;/a&gt;, that was one red-hot article. That sure doesn&#039;t sound like Dreyfuss. I wonder if he&#039;s soft-pedaling his usual progressive reporting to get back into the good graces of &lt;i&gt;Rolling Stone,&lt;/i&gt; for which he was once its national security columnist. (When Taibbi panned out in a big way, maybe RS didn&#039;t think it was big enough for the two of them.)

Now I don&#039;t want him back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I commented at <a href="http://zenhuber.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Pen &amp; Sword</a>, that was one red-hot article. That sure doesn&#8217;t sound like Dreyfuss. I wonder if he&#8217;s soft-pedaling his usual progressive reporting to get back into the good graces of <i>Rolling Stone,</i> for which he was once its national security columnist. (When Taibbi panned out in a big way, maybe RS didn&#8217;t think it was big enough for the two of them.)</p>
<p>Now I don&#8217;t want him back.</p>
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		<title>By: elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Pakistan has a really strong army and can defend its nuclear capability adequately from Taliban and related forces.  But what happens if the political ideology of the Taliban reaches political ascendancy in Pakistan and starts to call the shots big time?  I have yet to reach a stage where I think the &#039;loonies&#039; in and around Obama are more to be feared than the loonies inside and over the borders of Pakistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Pakistan has a really strong army and can defend its nuclear capability adequately from Taliban and related forces.  But what happens if the political ideology of the Taliban reaches political ascendancy in Pakistan and starts to call the shots big time?  I have yet to reach a stage where I think the &#8216;loonies&#8217; in and around Obama are more to be feared than the loonies inside and over the borders of Pakistan.</p>
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