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	<title>Comments on: America and its presidents: what the fuck is wrong with you people?</title>
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		<title>By: Terry Hargrove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Hargrove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has only been six months. Let&#039;s give the president a chance. But the best president we&#039;ve had so far, hands down, was Morgan Freeman in Deep Impact. I&#039;d take an asteriod for that guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has only been six months. Let&#8217;s give the president a chance. But the best president we&#8217;ve had so far, hands down, was Morgan Freeman in Deep Impact. I&#8217;d take an asteriod for that guy!</p>
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		<title>By: Bonesparkle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonesparkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a number of you point out about the &quot;good&quot; presidents I mention is fair enough, but please consider HOW GODDAMNED LOW THE BAR IS!! If I recall, the historical suck level of America&#039;s choice in presidents was my whole point to start with. I&#039;m not suggesting that Ike, for instance, is the perfect president. Merely that he looks better than those who have come along since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a number of you point out about the &#8220;good&#8221; presidents I mention is fair enough, but please consider HOW GODDAMNED LOW THE BAR IS!! If I recall, the historical suck level of America&#8217;s choice in presidents was my whole point to start with. I&#8217;m not suggesting that Ike, for instance, is the perfect president. Merely that he looks better than those who have come along since.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ike. Hurm. Mixed bag there. CIA overthrows of legit gov&#039;ts of Iran &amp; Guatemala - but he got out of Korea &amp; stayed out (mostly) of Vietnam. 

Stayed quiet about McCarthy until attacks hit targets he personally cared about (against US Army &amp; G. Marshall in particular) - but he vigorously enforced Brown vs Board of Ed. in Little Rock even though he personally disagreed with decision, a case of putting law &amp; Constitution over ideology that we haven&#039;t seen since. 

On his way in he gave the country the worst choice of a #2/successor in the history of the world (except may for Paul von Hindenburg&#039;s choice) - but on his way out he gave the greatest Farewell Address since Washington&#039;s. 

As I say, a mixed bag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ike. Hurm. Mixed bag there. CIA overthrows of legit gov&#8217;ts of Iran &amp; Guatemala &#8211; but he got out of Korea &amp; stayed out (mostly) of Vietnam. </p>
<p>Stayed quiet about McCarthy until attacks hit targets he personally cared about (against US Army &amp; G. Marshall in particular) &#8211; but he vigorously enforced Brown vs Board of Ed. in Little Rock even though he personally disagreed with decision, a case of putting law &amp; Constitution over ideology that we haven&#8217;t seen since. </p>
<p>On his way in he gave the country the worst choice of a #2/successor in the history of the world (except may for Paul von Hindenburg&#8217;s choice) &#8211; but on his way out he gave the greatest Farewell Address since Washington&#8217;s. </p>
<p>As I say, a mixed bag</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Oooga, it does. I&#039;d like to hear your opinion of Jews. I&#039;m not the only one, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Oooga, it does. I&#8217;d like to hear your opinion of Jews. I&#8217;m not the only one, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think It&#039;s time for S+R to have a &quot;Tournament of Presidents&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think It&#8217;s time for S+R to have a &#8220;Tournament of Presidents&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Oooga Boooga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oooga Boooga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, does everything have to be spelt out for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, does everything have to be spelt out for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooga: nasty and derogatory to whom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooga: nasty and derogatory to whom?</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you have to be truman that little speed freak was a disaster</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have to be truman that little speed freak was a disaster</p>
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		<title>By: Oooga Boooga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oooga Boooga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Slammy, it was just a way of being nasty and derogatory without trying to come off as &quot;anti-Semitic&quot; (that tired old canard of the zionists).

Hmmm.  Next time I&#039;ll use the &quot;Zionist State&quot; instead, as calling Israel the &quot;Jewish State&quot; is an insult to Jews.  Or at least it should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Slammy, it was just a way of being nasty and derogatory without trying to come off as &#8220;anti-Semitic&#8221; (that tired old canard of the zionists).</p>
<p>Hmmm.  Next time I&#8217;ll use the &#8220;Zionist State&#8221; instead, as calling Israel the &#8220;Jewish State&#8221; is an insult to Jews.  Or at least it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooga: would you mind elaborating on that &quot;Jooish&quot; thing a bit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooga: would you mind elaborating on that &#8220;Jooish&#8221; thing a bit?</p>
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		<title>By: Oooga Boooga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oooga Boooga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;So the jury is still out on Mr. Obama.&lt;/em&gt;

Oh, really?  Wow.  I find that statement to be astounding in its cluelessness.

But then there&#039;s this:

&lt;em&gt;By today’s standards Ike isn’t looking bad at all, and his two predecessors, FDR and Truman, also score high marks.&lt;/em&gt;

Truman recognized Israel.  The original act of fealty to the Jooish State that thus begat the decline of America.

And FDR?  FDR makes Nixon seem like Carter in comparison.

FAIL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>So the jury is still out on Mr. Obama.</em></p>
<p>Oh, really?  Wow.  I find that statement to be astounding in its cluelessness.</p>
<p>But then there&#8217;s this:</p>
<p><em>By today’s standards Ike isn’t looking bad at all, and his two predecessors, FDR and Truman, also score high marks.</em></p>
<p>Truman recognized Israel.  The original act of fealty to the Jooish State that thus begat the decline of America.</p>
<p>And FDR?  FDR makes Nixon seem like Carter in comparison.</p>
<p>FAIL.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the point is that while Carter was of the &quot;moderate&quot; strain of the SBC (which still existed back then), he made it cool for a Prez to be very publicly religious. So the biggest issue there is the symbolism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point is that while Carter was of the &#8220;moderate&#8221; strain of the SBC (which still existed back then), he made it cool for a Prez to be very publicly religious. So the biggest issue there is the symbolism.</p>
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		<title>By: NoOneYouKnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoOneYouKnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also put JFK in the &quot;mink on Viagra&quot; category. Apparently, not the least of his problems was that a lot of husbands in Washington wanted him dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also put JFK in the &#8220;mink on Viagra&#8221; category. Apparently, not the least of his problems was that a lot of husbands in Washington wanted him dead.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gonzo Report - America and its presidents: what the fuck is wrong with you people?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gonzo Report - America and its presidents: what the fuck is wrong with you people?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy Carter was a Baptist (and yes, publicly so), but definitely not a fundamentalist. As far as I know, he is still, a very strong supporter of the separation of church and state.  I&#039;m not clear on how you connect him with the &quot;fundy smell&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy Carter was a Baptist (and yes, publicly so), but definitely not a fundamentalist. As far as I know, he is still, a very strong supporter of the separation of church and state.  I&#8217;m not clear on how you connect him with the &#8220;fundy smell&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jeff watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, did anyone really expect Obama to change the status quo.  As for economic conditions being so bad, an excellent case can be made for far worse conditions in the 1970&#039;s.  The only reason it might seem worse to the younger people is that the media is telling them 24/7 how much danger we&#039;re in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, did anyone really expect Obama to change the status quo.  As for economic conditions being so bad, an excellent case can be made for far worse conditions in the 1970&#8217;s.  The only reason it might seem worse to the younger people is that the media is telling them 24/7 how much danger we&#8217;re in.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lincoln is considered one of the greatest presidents specifically because he kept the country together - Gettysburg and Sherman&#039;s March do nothing to negate Lincolns greatness.  Similarly, FDR presided over the firebombing of Tokyo and Dresden, yet he&#039;s considered one of the greatest presidents ever as well.  Hiroshima and Nagasaki should matter no more to Truman&#039;s legacy than those other massacres should to FDR or Lincoln.

No matter what the Geneva Conventions say, there is ultimately only one rule in warfare - kill or be killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lincoln is considered one of the greatest presidents specifically because he kept the country together &#8211; Gettysburg and Sherman&#8217;s March do nothing to negate Lincolns greatness.  Similarly, FDR presided over the firebombing of Tokyo and Dresden, yet he&#8217;s considered one of the greatest presidents ever as well.  Hiroshima and Nagasaki should matter no more to Truman&#8217;s legacy than those other massacres should to FDR or Lincoln.</p>
<p>No matter what the Geneva Conventions say, there is ultimately only one rule in warfare &#8211; kill or be killed.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article would be a hell of a lot funnier if it weren&#039;t so true. With any luck, though, we&#039;ll all be in Paradise City soon enough...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article would be a hell of a lot funnier if it weren&#8217;t so true. With any luck, though, we&#8217;ll all be in Paradise City soon enough&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sjnbiw</title>
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		<dc:creator>sjnbiw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truman?  Really?  Ever hear of Hiroshima or Nagasaki?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truman?  Really?  Ever hear of Hiroshima or Nagasaki?</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That wheel had better start turning pretty fast...and i&#039;m talking about first gear, clutch dump, chirping tires, 0-60 in under four seconds fast...because the time is running out. Tweaking things around the edges is not going to cut it; putting a smiley face on all the manure that DC shovels is not going to cut it.

This country is fast going third-world and the Promethean bringer of Change seems far more concerned with making sure that Goldman Sachs is just fine than doing any of the things he said to get elected. People are getting more homeless on a daily basis, choosing between food and cloths, figuring that health care is simply not an option, and the rest of it while GS is reporting &quot;blowout profits&quot; on the taxpayer&#039;s dime. (hey, i&#039;ve got nothing against capitalism or making a profit, but cooked books, blown bubbles and the shadiness of the biggest players on the Street is a perversion.)

&lt;i&gt;Capitain America&#039;s been torn apart
Now he&#039;s a court jester
With a broken heart
He said turn me around
And take me back to the start
I must be losing my mind
&quot;Are you blind?!&quot;
I&#039;ve seen it all a mllion times&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wheel had better start turning pretty fast&#8230;and i&#8217;m talking about first gear, clutch dump, chirping tires, 0-60 in under four seconds fast&#8230;because the time is running out. Tweaking things around the edges is not going to cut it; putting a smiley face on all the manure that DC shovels is not going to cut it.</p>
<p>This country is fast going third-world and the Promethean bringer of Change seems far more concerned with making sure that Goldman Sachs is just fine than doing any of the things he said to get elected. People are getting more homeless on a daily basis, choosing between food and cloths, figuring that health care is simply not an option, and the rest of it while GS is reporting &#8220;blowout profits&#8221; on the taxpayer&#8217;s dime. (hey, i&#8217;ve got nothing against capitalism or making a profit, but cooked books, blown bubbles and the shadiness of the biggest players on the Street is a perversion.)</p>
<p><i>Capitain America&#8217;s been torn apart<br />
Now he&#8217;s a court jester<br />
With a broken heart<br />
He said turn me around<br />
And take me back to the start<br />
I must be losing my mind<br />
&#8220;Are you blind?!&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;ve seen it all a mllion times</i></p>
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