Comments on: Woodstock… http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/ Think. It ain't illegal yet... Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:48:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lex http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/comment-page-1/#comment-70188 Lex Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:06:55 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=10806#comment-70188 I haven't seen the film, but being a head i have heard something about it. The Dead did a song about the trip, which makes it seem like their favorite experience as rock and roll people. I'll have to look into catching that soon. http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/aswe.html Jim, you're welcome, but no thanks needed because the words were deserved. It was nice to see something not loaded down with cliches and tripe. I haven’t seen the film, but being a head i have heard something about it. The Dead did a song about the trip, which makes it seem like their favorite experience as rock and roll people. I’ll have to look into catching that soon.

http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/aswe.html

Jim, you’re welcome, but no thanks needed because the words were deserved. It was nice to see something not loaded down with cliches and tripe.

]]> By: Jim Booth http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/comment-page-1/#comment-70166 Jim Booth Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:42 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=10806#comment-70166 Kevin: I hear you brother. Lost friends in Nam myself. In fact, a friend bought gear for our band with money he received from a gov't insurance policy after his older brother (our hero) died in SE Asia....That stuff stays with you forever.... Lex: Thanks for the kind words. Russ: Have seen "Festival Express" a few times. Amazing film. Rock legends playing in places like shopping center parking lots. And that jam you mention...fantastic.... Kevin: I hear you brother. Lost friends in Nam myself. In fact, a friend bought gear for our band with money he received from a gov’t insurance policy after his older brother (our hero) died in SE Asia….That stuff stays with you forever….

Lex: Thanks for the kind words.

Russ: Have seen “Festival Express” a few times. Amazing film. Rock legends playing in places like shopping center parking lots. And that jam you mention…fantastic….

]]> By: Russ Wellen http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/comment-page-1/#comment-70151 Russ Wellen Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:24:05 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=10806#comment-70151 For those who cherish Woodstock: the event, the movie and the album, you must see <i>The Festival Express</i>. From Wikipedia:<blockquote>. . . a 2003 rockumentary film about the 1970 train tour across Canada taken by some of the world's biggest rock bands, including The Grateful Dead, Janis Joplin, and The Band. The documentary film combines footage shot during the 1970 concerts, as well as the train ride itself, interspersed with present-day interviews with tour participants sharing their often hilarious recollections of the time. ... The idea was that rather than flying to each city, the musicians would travel by chartered Canadian National Railways train, fostering an atmosphere of musical creativity and closeness between the performers. The trips between cities were a mix of jam sessions and partying, fueled by excess alcohol. Among the memorable scenes depicted in the film was a drunken and acid-fueled jam with The Band's Rick Danko, the Dead's Jerry Garcia and Bob Weir, and Janis Joplin. ... In the film, musician Kenny Gradney, who performed with Delaney & Bonnie, said: "It was better than Woodstock, as great as Woodstock was."</blockquote>To see these musicians enjoying each others' presence, partying together, playing together is a revelation to those who haven't seen it. For those who cherish Woodstock: the event, the movie and the album, you must see The Festival Express. From Wikipedia:
. . . a 2003 rockumentary film about the 1970 train tour across Canada taken by some of the world’s biggest rock bands, including The Grateful Dead, Janis Joplin, and The Band. The documentary film combines footage shot during the 1970 concerts, as well as the train ride itself, interspersed with present-day interviews with tour participants sharing their often hilarious recollections of the time. …

The idea was that rather than flying to each city, the musicians would travel by chartered Canadian National Railways train, fostering an atmosphere of musical creativity and closeness between the performers. The trips between cities were a mix of jam sessions and partying, fueled by excess alcohol. Among the memorable scenes depicted in the film was a drunken and acid-fueled jam with The Band’s Rick Danko, the Dead’s Jerry Garcia and Bob Weir, and Janis Joplin. …

In the film, musician Kenny Gradney, who performed with Delaney & Bonnie, said: “It was better than Woodstock, as great as Woodstock was.”

To see these musicians enjoying each others’ presence, partying together, playing together is a revelation to those who haven’t seen it.

]]> By: bornlate50's http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/comment-page-1/#comment-70091 bornlate50's Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:15:56 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=10806#comment-70091 I idolized the Woodstock generation because they had the... gumption to stand against authority. Authority is nothing but humans telling other humans what they should and shouldn't do whether it is secular or religious in nature. This realization provided my motivation to seek the only authority who is righteous which is the Creator. Every since kids started being killed at Kent St. we have acquiesced on principle as long as we were provided with material comforts and as a result the authorities and their brain washed thugs are about to herd us up and take what freedom we have left. They think the world will be better without us well I say better to die fighting than to submit to dictation. One of our founding fathers: Patrick Henry said something like is life so dear and peace so sweet to be purchased at the cost of chains other men may choose what they will but as for me "give me liberty or give me death." I idolized the Woodstock generation because they had the… gumption to stand against authority. Authority is nothing but humans telling other humans what they should and shouldn’t do whether it is secular or religious in nature. This realization provided my motivation to seek the only authority who is righteous which is the Creator. Every since kids started being killed at Kent St. we have acquiesced on principle as long as we were provided with material comforts and as a result the authorities and their brain washed thugs are about to herd us up and take what freedom we have left. They think the world will be better without us well I say better to die fighting than to submit to dictation. One of our founding fathers: Patrick Henry said something like is life so dear and peace so sweet to be purchased at the cost of chains other men may choose what they will but as for me “give me liberty or give me death.”

]]> By: Lex http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/comment-page-1/#comment-70064 Lex Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:47:32 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=10806#comment-70064 So i read "Woodstock 101" (i don't know why and i'm somewhat ashamed) and this struck me: <i>"In a way, we came to Woodstock as half a million individuals and we left as a market," said Makower. "A generation that had its own tastes and sensibilities and power in the marketplace."</i> Mr. Makower wrote <i>Woodstock: The Oral History</i> After subtracting for ABC's editing of the interview, i'm still struck by the feeling of "holy shit, yer doing it wrong". Thank god that the largest generation in American history found a way to garner power in the marketplace. Think how things would have been if Woodstock hadn't happened? If Mr. Makower wants to do any justice to the legacy of that event, he should just shut the fuck up and let Jim Booth do the talking. So i read “Woodstock 101″ (i don’t know why and i’m somewhat ashamed) and this struck me:

“In a way, we came to Woodstock as half a million individuals and we left as a market,” said Makower. “A generation that had its own tastes and sensibilities and power in the marketplace.” Mr. Makower wrote Woodstock: The Oral History

After subtracting for ABC’s editing of the interview, i’m still struck by the feeling of “holy shit, yer doing it wrong”. Thank god that the largest generation in American history found a way to garner power in the marketplace. Think how things would have been if Woodstock hadn’t happened?

If Mr. Makower wants to do any justice to the legacy of that event, he should just shut the fuck up and let Jim Booth do the talking.

]]> By: Kevin Sguires Brown http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/comment-page-1/#comment-70045 Kevin Sguires Brown Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:05:36 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=10806#comment-70045 I was there. I drove up from westchester NY with two of my clooseest friends. We broke down 2 miles before the entrance. Walked like every one else. Had tickets not needed it was already free at that point ( my mother found my tickets last year and gave them to me). Simply put it was a Trip. Three days of a trip and I'm sure that there was not one persone there that wasn't , except maybe the cop's. I did not see one single act of violence in any sense of the word, stopped going to concerts many years ago because it always would be there. There was definatly a sense that we were finaly setting up a knew paridigm as it progressed. Like al else in this society it was co-opped and twisted. ( like they lie about anti war protesters spitting on returning vietnam vets) Unfortunatly not enough true political and econimic educating followed up. When the war finally ended and our friends came home, if they did (the friend that drove that weekend didn't come back from Nam) most people had thought we had won. yea right. Here we are again fighting two insane wars we should never have started. And the facist right seem to be winning the battle over health care like every other developed country in the world has. We didn't all buy new BMW's ( built the one I had from wrecks) or live in Mcmansions ( just build the cabinets for them like I do ) I was there. I drove up from westchester NY with two of my clooseest friends. We broke down 2 miles before the entrance. Walked like every one else. Had tickets not needed it was already free at that point ( my mother found my tickets last year and gave them to me). Simply put it was a Trip. Three days of a trip and I’m sure that there was not one persone there that wasn’t , except maybe the cop’s. I did not see one single act of violence in any sense of the word, stopped going to concerts many years ago because it always would be there. There was definatly a sense that we were finaly setting up a knew paridigm as it progressed. Like al else in this society it was co-opped and twisted. ( like they lie about anti war protesters spitting on returning vietnam vets) Unfortunatly not enough true political and econimic educating followed up. When the war finally ended and our friends came home, if they did (the friend that drove that weekend didn’t come back from Nam) most people had thought we had won. yea right. Here we are again fighting two insane wars we should never have started. And the facist right seem to be winning the battle over health care like every other developed country in the world has. We didn’t all buy new BMW’s ( built the one I had from wrecks) or live in Mcmansions ( just build the cabinets for them like I do )

]]> By: Notorious Kelly http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/comment-page-1/#comment-70040 Notorious Kelly Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:15:24 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=10806#comment-70040 I wish kids would quit trying to relive the 60's and just support their own scene. Haight-Ashbury died 40 years ago; get the hell OUT! I wish kids would quit trying to relive the 60′s and just support their own scene.

Haight-Ashbury died 40 years ago; get the hell OUT!

]]> By: Daniel http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/comment-page-1/#comment-70038 Daniel Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:07:18 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=10806#comment-70038 "1994, 1999: MTV hypes its “Woodstock” out the wazoo. I don’t even watch from the comfort of my living room. Planned spontaneity and conformist uniqueness don’t impress me much." Precisely why I am proud of the havok and destruction that was thrust upon the 30th anniversary by my generation. That was UNplanned spontaneity. Took it to the man who tried to take it to us. Too bad they still made a pocket full of cash. “1994, 1999: MTV hypes its “Woodstock” out the wazoo. I don’t even watch from the comfort of my living room.

Planned spontaneity and conformist uniqueness don’t impress me much.”

Precisely why I am proud of the havok and destruction that was thrust upon the 30th anniversary by my generation.

That was UNplanned spontaneity. Took it to the man who tried to take it to us. Too bad they still made a pocket full of cash.

]]> By: Matt http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/comment-page-1/#comment-70037 Matt Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:39:58 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=10806#comment-70037 Naw. These are the people who decided that living in a van and showering once a week is only "cool" when you're young. Once you get a little older, those "righteous views" go right out the window. You graduate college, then you need a Beamer, a fancy McMansion and then you turn into one of the sell-out jackasses who have ultimately raped this country in more ways than "the man" they fought against during the hippie era ever dreamed of. Naw. These are the people who decided that living in a van and showering once a week is only “cool” when you’re young. Once you get a little older, those “righteous views” go right out the window.
You graduate college, then you need a Beamer, a fancy McMansion and then you turn into one of the sell-out jackasses who have ultimately raped this country in more ways than “the man” they fought against during the hippie era ever dreamed of.

]]> By: wufnik http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/comment-page-1/#comment-70036 wufnik Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:31:38 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=10806#comment-70036 Real, genuine not-made-up headline on ABC News right now: What Woodstock Meant to our Parents. Tedious story here: http://abcnews.go.com/US/Woodstock/story?id=8276354&page=1 Real, genuine not-made-up headline on ABC News right now: What Woodstock Meant to our Parents. Tedious story here: http://abcnews.go.com/US/Woodstock/story?id=8276354&page=1

]]> By: Farley http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/14/woodstock/comment-page-1/#comment-70035 Farley Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:27:32 +0000 http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/?p=10806#comment-70035 Are those who attended Woodstock now the Town Hollers? If so how did their vision of utopia become our dystopia? Are those who attended Woodstock now the Town Hollers? If so how did their vision of utopia become our dystopia?

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