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	<title>Comments on: Lord Monckton labels climate activists &#8220;Hitler youth&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-103437</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 02:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t checked back on this post in a while, but for anyone who thinks that a loud shout-out was fascist and deserved being compared to the Hitler Youth, I recommend you read my followup post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/17/activists-not-nazis/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what the AFP event would have looked like if real Hitler Youth (or brownshirts, given the ages of the protesters) had been involved&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t checked back on this post in a while, but for anyone who thinks that a loud shout-out was fascist and deserved being compared to the Hitler Youth, I recommend you read my followup post on <a href="http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/17/activists-not-nazis/" rel="nofollow">what the AFP event would have looked like if real Hitler Youth (or brownshirts, given the ages of the protesters) had been involved</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: The perpetual debunking of Christopher Monckton &#171; The Daedalnexus</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-88542</link>
		<dc:creator>The perpetual debunking of Christopher Monckton &#171; The Daedalnexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 01:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] regarding climate science, my issues with Monckton are largely the result of the fact that he has labeled student activists &#8220;Hitler Youth,&#8221; has threatened legal action against his critics in transparent attempts at intimidation, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] regarding climate science, my issues with Monckton are largely the result of the fact that he has labeled student activists &#8220;Hitler Youth,&#8221; has threatened legal action against his critics in transparent attempts at intimidation, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The perpetual debunking of Christopher Monckton</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-88264</link>
		<dc:creator>The perpetual debunking of Christopher Monckton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 12:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] regarding climate science, my issues with Monckton are largely the result of the fact that he has labeled student activists &#8220;Hitler Youth,&#8221; has threatened legal action against his critics in transparent attempts at intimidation, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] regarding climate science, my issues with Monckton are largely the result of the fact that he has labeled student activists &#8220;Hitler Youth,&#8221; has threatened legal action against his critics in transparent attempts at intimidation, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; The best class I have ever taken: HIST143, the History of Fascism and Nazism</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-82431</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; The best class I have ever taken: HIST143, the History of Fascism and Nazism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they really worked, I can&#8217;t do joke about Nazis anymore. Not only that, but I get offended by people making bullshit Nazi references. Because in 99% of the cases, the Nazi references are bullshit. I don&#8217;t care [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they really worked, I can&#8217;t do joke about Nazis anymore. Not only that, but I get offended by people making bullshit Nazi references. Because in 99% of the cases, the Nazi references are bullshit. I don&#8217;t care [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The NonSequitur &#187; I heard you like fallacies</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-81816</link>
		<dc:creator>The NonSequitur &#187; I heard you like fallacies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hit one of my personal buttons by misunderstanding and cheapening the real history of the Nazis by labeling peaceful, if rowdy, protesters as &#8220;Hitler Youth.&#8221; And we cannot forget that Monckton wanted to quarantine AIDS victims in the late 1980s, believes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hit one of my personal buttons by misunderstanding and cheapening the real history of the Nazis by labeling peaceful, if rowdy, protesters as &ldquo;Hitler Youth.&rdquo; And we cannot forget that Monckton wanted to quarantine AIDS victims in the late 1980s, believes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Climate disruption denier Monckton responds to detailed scientific rebuttal with attempted intimidation</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-81762</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Climate disruption denier Monckton responds to detailed scientific rebuttal with attempted intimidation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hit one of my personal buttons by misunderstanding and cheapening the real history of the Nazis by labeling peaceful, if rowdy, protesters as &#8220;Hitler Youth.&#8221; And we cannot forget that Monckton wanted to quarantine AIDS victims in the late 1980s, believes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hit one of my personal buttons by misunderstanding and cheapening the real history of the Nazis by labeling peaceful, if rowdy, protesters as &#8220;Hitler Youth.&#8221; And we cannot forget that Monckton wanted to quarantine AIDS victims in the late 1980s, believes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; What Monckton&#8217;s AFP event would have looked like if real Nazis had invaded instead of nonviolent climate activists</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-75633</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; What Monckton&#8217;s AFP event would have looked like if real Nazis had invaded instead of nonviolent climate activists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he was speaking of being &#8220;Hitler Youth&#8221; three times &#8211; twice caught on video (see these two posts from last week) and then at least twice on the Science and Public Policy Institute blog here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] he was speaking of being &#8220;Hitler Youth&#8221; three times &#8211; twice caught on video (see these two posts from last week) and then at least twice on the Science and Public Policy Institute blog here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ricktack</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-75579</link>
		<dc:creator>ricktack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with Monckton, those protesters use fascist methods</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with Monckton, those protesters use fascist methods</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-75522</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the new world order is not so far fetched of an idea.  Many economic signs are pointing in this direction, and the bond market&#039;s action suggests something&#039;s up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the new world order is not so far fetched of an idea.  Many economic signs are pointing in this direction, and the bond market&#8217;s action suggests something&#8217;s up.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-75464</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC - am I correct in interpreting your &quot;giving away their sovereignty&quot; comment to mean that you agree with Monckton&#039;s claim that climate change is a convenient way to bring about a New World Order?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC &#8211; am I correct in interpreting your &#8220;giving away their sovereignty&#8221; comment to mean that you agree with Monckton&#8217;s claim that climate change is a convenient way to bring about a New World Order?</p>
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		<title>By: cmac</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-75461</link>
		<dc:creator>cmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love to see those is power cry when the plebs get out of line. The &quot;Hitler Youth&quot; disrupted our event of lies, nonsense and propaganda. We know the climate deniers position,&quot; do nothing and allow us to burn and destroy everything because climate change is natural.&quot; They have a few scientists bought and paid for by the oil industry, to muddy the waters, but are mostly business people telling the rest of us to grab our ankles. If they had any real evidence it would be everywhere since every powerful interest in the world would like the issue of climate change to disappear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to see those is power cry when the plebs get out of line. The &#8220;Hitler Youth&#8221; disrupted our event of lies, nonsense and propaganda. We know the climate deniers position,&#8221; do nothing and allow us to burn and destroy everything because climate change is natural.&#8221; They have a few scientists bought and paid for by the oil industry, to muddy the waters, but are mostly business people telling the rest of us to grab our ankles. If they had any real evidence it would be everywhere since every powerful interest in the world would like the issue of climate change to disappear.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Bryant</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-75457</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to see the emails of these so called &quot;scientists&quot; denying the obvious...  I bet they go right to FOX News Channel and ClearChannel Communications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see the emails of these so called &#8220;scientists&#8221; denying the obvious&#8230;  I bet they go right to FOX News Channel and ClearChannel Communications.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-75454</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing more than delusional sheeps to the slaughter. give away their sovereignty, their lives for a lie under the guise of protection, and a perverted perspective of purpose(saving the planet? sure.). Mandated government emission control? Sad. If mankind survives the 21st century that will be impressive. if the conspiracist tales of alien invastion, Nubiru, the Annaki or any of the outlandish alien and extra dimensional races hold any legitimate weight I would not mind if mankind was wiped out or enslaved for its disgusting behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing more than delusional sheeps to the slaughter. give away their sovereignty, their lives for a lie under the guise of protection, and a perverted perspective of purpose(saving the planet? sure.). Mandated government emission control? Sad. If mankind survives the 21st century that will be impressive. if the conspiracist tales of alien invastion, Nubiru, the Annaki or any of the outlandish alien and extra dimensional races hold any legitimate weight I would not mind if mankind was wiped out or enslaved for its disgusting behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; &#8220;I&#8217;m not going to shake the hand of Hitler Youth.&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-75447</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; &#8220;I&#8217;m not going to shake the hand of Hitler Youth.&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with a number of youths when he was approached by a couple of other youths he recognized from the Americans for Prosperity event that was temporarily taken over by youth climate activists yesterday. When he was asked to shake one of the activists&#8217; hand, he responded No, no. I&#8217;m not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with a number of youths when he was approached by a couple of other youths he recognized from the Americans for Prosperity event that was temporarily taken over by youth climate activists yesterday. When he was asked to shake one of the activists&#8217; hand, he responded No, no. I&#8217;m not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quisp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Climate gate should be called Algo-date. Why? Because what the scientists are trying to do, since we only have temperature data going back to about 1850, is create an algorithm so they can figure out the past temperature cyclee. They are using tree rings and ice cores to find out what the temperatures were in the past. The data from 1850 forward we do know. 

IE in order to create a climate model they scientists must plug in information so they can create the best climate model possible,

I am not worried about the cliimate change personally as it will change due to precession and obliquity along with other factors such as the sunspot cycles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate gate should be called Algo-date. Why? Because what the scientists are trying to do, since we only have temperature data going back to about 1850, is create an algorithm so they can figure out the past temperature cyclee. They are using tree rings and ice cores to find out what the temperatures were in the past. The data from 1850 forward we do know. </p>
<p>IE in order to create a climate model they scientists must plug in information so they can create the best climate model possible,</p>
<p>I am not worried about the cliimate change personally as it will change due to precession and obliquity along with other factors such as the sunspot cycles.</p>
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		<title>By: Throwing around the &#8220;Hitler&#8221; term</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-75439</link>
		<dc:creator>Throwing around the &#8220;Hitler&#8221; term</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this simple truth, it is amazing that serial climate denier Lord Monckton chose to attack 50 chanting youth, who were far from wearing &#8216;brown shirts&#8217; or swinging clubs, as... did so &#8216;in the heat of the moment&#8217; when 50 young climate activists took over the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this simple truth, it is amazing that serial climate denier Lord Monckton chose to attack 50 chanting youth, who were far from wearing &#8216;brown shirts&#8217; or swinging clubs, as&#8230; did so &#8216;in the heat of the moment&#8217; when 50 young climate activists took over the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Angliss</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/09/lord-monckton-labels-climate-activists-hitler-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-75435</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Angliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been no proof of any collusion, any fraud, or any conspiracy.  No paper&#039;s data or conclusions have been found to be falsified.  The American Meteorological Society and Nature have published statements that there is nothing in the emails that meets their standards for opening an investigation into scientific misconduct by the CRU scientists.  The IPCC papers that were discussed regarding keeping them out of the IPCC AR4 WG1 report were actually in the report.  The only truly damning thing in those emails is a discussion to delete emails to avoid providing information in response to an information request, and thus far there&#039;s several investigations into whether any emails were actually deleted.  At least one of the scientists involved has publicly stated that he didn&#039;t delete any emails.

If you have proof of fraud, provide it.  If you know of papers that are based on false data, provide them.  If you don&#039;t, then stop making unfounded accusations.  Put up, or shut up.

I agree with you that there&#039;s no comparison, though - Monckton knowingly called his opponents &quot;Hitler youth&quot; in a public forum.  The CRU scientists called their opponents idiots and assholes privately, with no expectation that their comments would become public.  Clearly, we can forgive the CRU scientists more easily than we can Monckton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been no proof of any collusion, any fraud, or any conspiracy.  No paper&#8217;s data or conclusions have been found to be falsified.  The American Meteorological Society and Nature have published statements that there is nothing in the emails that meets their standards for opening an investigation into scientific misconduct by the CRU scientists.  The IPCC papers that were discussed regarding keeping them out of the IPCC AR4 WG1 report were actually in the report.  The only truly damning thing in those emails is a discussion to delete emails to avoid providing information in response to an information request, and thus far there&#8217;s several investigations into whether any emails were actually deleted.  At least one of the scientists involved has publicly stated that he didn&#8217;t delete any emails.</p>
<p>If you have proof of fraud, provide it.  If you know of papers that are based on false data, provide them.  If you don&#8217;t, then stop making unfounded accusations.  Put up, or shut up.</p>
<p>I agree with you that there&#8217;s no comparison, though &#8211; Monckton knowingly called his opponents &#8220;Hitler youth&#8221; in a public forum.  The CRU scientists called their opponents idiots and assholes privately, with no expectation that their comments would become public.  Clearly, we can forgive the CRU scientists more easily than we can Monckton.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Or they can forgive Monckton his public remarks and similarly forgive the climate scientists their private remarks as well.&quot;
your logic is astounding... colluding to commit scientific fraud for the creation of trillions of global taxation dollars vs calling brainwashed &#039;awarmists&#039; who believed the propaganda from the false data nazi youth is absolutely NO COMPARISON</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Or they can forgive Monckton his public remarks and similarly forgive the climate scientists their private remarks as well.&#8221;<br />
your logic is astounding&#8230; colluding to commit scientific fraud for the creation of trillions of global taxation dollars vs calling brainwashed &#8216;awarmists&#8217; who believed the propaganda from the false data nazi youth is absolutely NO COMPARISON</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-12-10&#160;-&#160;Kevin Bondelli&#39;s Youth Vote Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-12-10&#160;-&#160;Kevin Bondelli&#39;s Youth Vote Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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