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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;You&#8217;re screwed&#8221;: GOP plan for America right on schedule</title>
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	<description>Think.  It ain&#039;t illegal yet...</description>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
		<link>http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/12/26/youre-screwed-gop-plan-for-america-right-on-schedule/comment-page-1/#comment-75878</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;...very little C-Span footage of Republican Senators wearing diapers so they can read the phonebook for three straight days.&lt;/em&gt;

Which is odd - that&#039;s the sort of thing you&#039;d think would appeal to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/56689/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vitter&lt;/a&gt;, at least....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8230;very little C-Span footage of Republican Senators wearing diapers so they can read the phonebook for three straight days.</em></p>
<p>Which is odd &#8211; that&#8217;s the sort of thing you&#8217;d think would appeal to <a href="http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/56689/" rel="nofollow">Vitter</a>, at least&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that&#039;s the thing...the progressives could wield a fair amount of power. Ian Welsh has consistently pointed out that the progressives are terribly negotiators, and it&#039;s true. (And Obama, if he really is a progressive, is the most terrible of all.) You don&#039;t start a negotiation by offering a conciliatory position. You start by demanding more than you&#039;re willing to accept in the end.

I&#039;ve started to wonder if Democratic politicians walk into a car dealership and offer more than the sticker price and then help the salesman bargain down the value of their trade-in.

They&#039;re also unwilling to call a bluff. I&#039;m so sick of hearing about the filibuster; just once i&#039;d like to see Reid say, &quot;Well then, go right the fuck ahead and filibuster.&quot; Somewhere along the line the threat of a filibuster became the same thing as an actual filibuster, because for all the times i&#039;ve heard that it&#039;s been invoked, i&#039;ve seen very little C-Span footage of Republican Senators wearing diapers so they can read the phonebook for three straight days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s the thing&#8230;the progressives could wield a fair amount of power. Ian Welsh has consistently pointed out that the progressives are terribly negotiators, and it&#8217;s true. (And Obama, if he really is a progressive, is the most terrible of all.) You don&#8217;t start a negotiation by offering a conciliatory position. You start by demanding more than you&#8217;re willing to accept in the end.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve started to wonder if Democratic politicians walk into a car dealership and offer more than the sticker price and then help the salesman bargain down the value of their trade-in.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re also unwilling to call a bluff. I&#8217;m so sick of hearing about the filibuster; just once i&#8217;d like to see Reid say, &#8220;Well then, go right the fuck ahead and filibuster.&#8221; Somewhere along the line the threat of a filibuster became the same thing as an actual filibuster, because for all the times i&#8217;ve heard that it&#8217;s been invoked, i&#8217;ve seen very little C-Span footage of Republican Senators wearing diapers so they can read the phonebook for three straight days.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The progressives do get pimped a lot. Obama/Rahm will pander to the Blue Dogs but they&#039;ll throw their weight around with the progs. Defer to Lieberman, which makes me sick. I can&#039;t help wondering what would have happened if the progressives had played the game on health care like Nelson did. Dig in their heels and say no, bitch, if there&#039;s not a public option we WILL blow it up.

Until they&#039;re willing to play that way, they&#039;re going to continue to get punked at every turn. This is DC here - nobody is going to give you power. You have to take it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The progressives do get pimped a lot. Obama/Rahm will pander to the Blue Dogs but they&#8217;ll throw their weight around with the progs. Defer to Lieberman, which makes me sick. I can&#8217;t help wondering what would have happened if the progressives had played the game on health care like Nelson did. Dig in their heels and say no, bitch, if there&#8217;s not a public option we WILL blow it up.</p>
<p>Until they&#8217;re willing to play that way, they&#8217;re going to continue to get punked at every turn. This is DC here &#8211; nobody is going to give you power. You have to take it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, the progressive wing refuses to stand up to the massive corporate center, too often opting for a sickly version of party discipline. Which would be one thing if the corporate center of the Democratic Party believed in that same party discipline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the progressive wing refuses to stand up to the massive corporate center, too often opting for a sickly version of party discipline. Which would be one thing if the corporate center of the Democratic Party believed in that same party discipline.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve noted in the past - and I think it&#039;s truer today than it ever was - the biggest problem with the Dems (from the public&#039;s perspective) is that it&#039;s not a party. It&#039;s TWO parties masquerading as one, and the Blue Dog wing has a LOT more in common with the GOP than it does with the Dem progressive wing. So in a sense, it&#039;s probably more accurate to describe Congress in terms of three factions: progressive caucus, far right (some blend of teabaggers and religious nuts) and a massive corporate center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve noted in the past &#8211; and I think it&#8217;s truer today than it ever was &#8211; the biggest problem with the Dems (from the public&#8217;s perspective) is that it&#8217;s not a party. It&#8217;s TWO parties masquerading as one, and the Blue Dog wing has a LOT more in common with the GOP than it does with the Dem progressive wing. So in a sense, it&#8217;s probably more accurate to describe Congress in terms of three factions: progressive caucus, far right (some blend of teabaggers and religious nuts) and a massive corporate center.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t disagree that the public is dog-butt stupid, there&#039;s too much evidence for it. But that&#039;s not as important as, &quot;...since the Democrats can be counted on to fuck up even the obvious stuff&quot;.

So if the Republicans  have this plan (and seems both cynical and logical enough to be true), then the lynchpin holding it together is the incompetency and corruption of the Democrats. I&#039;m not sure it matters, though, because the Dems are just as incompetent in the minority as they are in the  majority. And in terms of policy implementation there&#039;s little to no difference between them anymore: they&#039;re both neo-liberal fascists. (note, that word used to indicate the wedding of state and corporate power rather than a Hitler mustache)

And the Dems are only screwed because the party is so willing to throw its own base under the bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t disagree that the public is dog-butt stupid, there&#8217;s too much evidence for it. But that&#8217;s not as important as, &#8220;&#8230;since the Democrats can be counted on to fuck up even the obvious stuff&#8221;.</p>
<p>So if the Republicans  have this plan (and seems both cynical and logical enough to be true), then the lynchpin holding it together is the incompetency and corruption of the Democrats. I&#8217;m not sure it matters, though, because the Dems are just as incompetent in the minority as they are in the  majority. And in terms of policy implementation there&#8217;s little to no difference between them anymore: they&#8217;re both neo-liberal fascists. (note, that word used to indicate the wedding of state and corporate power rather than a Hitler mustache)</p>
<p>And the Dems are only screwed because the party is so willing to throw its own base under the bus.</p>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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